Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cloudstack-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cloudstack-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31A781863B for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2015 07:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21698 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2015 07:20:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cloudstack-dev-archive@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 21640 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2015 07:20:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cloudstack.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 21628 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jul 2015 07:20:57 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 07:20:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of runseb@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.49] (HELO mail-wg0-f49.google.com) (74.125.82.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 07:18:44 +0000 Received: by wguu7 with SMTP id u7so80907970wgu.3 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 00:20:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=h7VuSE6aBCL8L+Do7L5MEGvmBh91SklPALeNm4Fk9U0=; b=0M+HEHE5Tm8ZvjiaSsE5J+tRbguFKKCLX/ZHn+xdh0eQ9IyK9YhGMw3PgXkgS8Z93h 6SNwK2csZjjJirvpONpLE9x8axvFkwNlhFKQITy67GtaYGQ8HFDWpPn9bK5v1ppIWLfE IQJCv30Drb/M5Zj+dPiB7+bG8FUQNLv2KYCAeRd3c8j+FJlXY0A3PIGT0zNWJfdBuvbE HxXQeWndrDVhN3PhaO7rfkiDQJ4Ay9kB0bUO+fs+t9QLG1WfsEP4tTGVEC4DI+8k8XrF Dvw5HfYGyqIQG6p46hxfGkNWFVCPz9/rodk6qjnEb0knwAKB24VFVwyeDct4phJZ10al WGjQ== X-Received: by 10.194.58.69 with SMTP id o5mr66540820wjq.22.1435908031830; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 00:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.9] (131.177.199.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch. [178.199.177.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ex8sm11938366wjc.34.2015.07.03.00.20.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Jul 2015 00:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] LTS releases? From: sebgoa In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:20:27 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8CDCD5BE-A3AF-49B1-88F8-97F33D666E2B@gmail.com> References: <559549F7.8090008@renemoser.net> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Remi Bergsma wrote: > Bug fixing in older releases is actually a lot of work. For security = related issues we could maybe do it.=20 >=20 > Personally, I prefer to have a fast release cycle and smooth (tested) = upgrade paths over 2-year LTS release cycle. It's more agile. As a = bonus, people get the new features.=20 >=20 > The more people do upgrades that work (tm) the more confident they = are. I'd really want to show that upgrades work so well that we need no = LTS.=20 >=20 > But there might be other reasons people have where LTS would help. = Please share! >=20 > Regards, Remi=20 I think we got in a situation with 4.4 that called for us to keep = maintaining 4.3=85.and even after 4.5 was released. Because 4.3 was seen = as a good release. Now that we have 4.4 and 4.5.2 etc, I don't think we will have the = cycles to maintain that many release branches. The big issue is upgrade path,=20 IMHO our LTS strategy is to have master as a release branch itself, = adopt good practice to merge to master, have great upgrades and no = regressions. Ultimately we should divert our efforts to master. So I am +1 with Remi on this. >=20 >=20 >> On 02 Jul 2015, at 16:25, Rene Moser wrote: >>=20 >> Maybe a little bit off topic to the new release process, therefor a = new >> thread... >>=20 >> speaking about releases. I just thought about supporting LTS = releases. >>=20 >> This would mean "someone" or "we" make a commitment to add bug fixes >> (only) for a specified time. e.g. 2 years for a release or until the >> next LTS release? >>=20 >> Would this something anyone would be interested in? >>=20 >> Yours >> Ren=E9