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From Adrian Lewis <adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk>
Subject RE: CentOS Cloud SIG effort
Date Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:12:00 GMT
Pretty sure that if getting the management server up and running was as
simple as...
1. Install CentOS
2. yum install cloudstack
3. setup-cloudstack-all-in-one.sh
...we'd see many more people at least trying it out.

Some might see the current installation options as easy enough but if
someone could get it up and running without even looking at the docs, I
reckon they'd be more likely to do it and then consult the docs when they
got stuck.

If the packages could be put into the centos-extras repo that would do the
trick. I'm sure there's more to it than my simplistic idea but could we
discuss the viability of this? We could do with a one-stop script that does
everything for the user including installing the mysql/mariadb server aspect
& even setting up NFS shares on the same box (leaving the other more
granular setup scripts for 'advanced' users. If centos-extras is not
feasible, how about EPEL? Might even get some Fedora people interested as
well (if it works on Fedora).

Pretty sure that this particular CentOS SIG is about running the
management/infrastructure side of things as opposed to running centos as a
guest in case anyone is unsure. Although clearly related, earlier comments
about cloud-init are surely more related to another CentOS SIG (Cloud
Instance) aren't they?

Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
Sent: 02 April 2015 09:20
To: sebgoa
Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Paul Angus
Subject: Re: CentOS Cloud SIG effort

BTW, if anyone has some concrete ideas/questions re Cloudstack and CentOS,
please come forth so we can mention them during the meeting.

Lucian

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Nux!
www.nux.ro

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nux!" <nux@li.nux.ro>
> To: "sebgoa" <runseb@gmail.com>
> Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Paul Angus" <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 2 April, 2015 09:08:57
> Subject: Re: CentOS Cloud SIG effort

> Sure, I'll do my best to attend.
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "sebgoa" <runseb@gmail.com>
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Paul Angus" <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>,
>> "Nux!"
>> <nux@li.nux.ro>
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 April, 2015 07:54:13
>> Subject: Re: CentOS Cloud SIG effort
>
>> All, and specially Paul and Nux,
>>
>> Any chance you can join this meeting, and see what we need to do on
>> the CentOS front ?
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/27/2015 04:41 AM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
>>>>> >On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Rich Bowen<rbowen@rcbowen.com>
 wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >A while back I mentioned to some folks (I think it was this list,
>>>>> >but it may have been a subset) that the CentOS community is
>>>>> >working on a Cloud SIG (Special Interest Group) effort. You can
>>>>> >read a little about it
>>>>> >athttp://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Cloud
>>>>> >
>>>>> >The idea is to ensure that cloud infrastructure software, like
>>>>> >CloudStack, OpenStack, Open Nebula, and Eucalyptus, works solidly
>>>>> >on CentOS, has all of the prerequisite packages available, gets CI
on
>>>>> >the CentOS platform, and so on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >At the moment, this is*only*  OpenStack, with the other projects
>>>>> >unrepresented.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >If you are interested in adoption of CloudStack on CentOS (and,
>>>>> >by side effect, on Red Hat Enterprise Linux), we'd love to have
>>>>> >your participation in this effort.
>>>>> >
>>>> Hi Rich, thanks for the ping again.
>>>>
>>>> We have been in touch with KB (Nux! and I mostly) and submitted our
>>>> scripts for building a cloudstack centOS templates upstream. It
>>>> works and was merged at some point, but it got pulled back because we
>>>> stick some scripts in there.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line is that I feel we need to work further upstream in
>>>> cloud-init to improve cloudstack support there, once that’s done,
>>>> we can come back to the CentOS builds for cloudstack.
>>>>
>>>> fwiw, our install base is probably ~70% centOS and we already have
>>>> centOS7 support.
>>>
>>> In the OpenStack world, we see CentOS as a great way to get the
>>> message out about OpenStack. Wearing my ASF hat, I'd really like to
>>> see the same vehicle be used to get the word out about CloudStack.
>>> CentOS goes to a lot of events, and many of them are ones that
>>> CloudStack isn't at. I'd love to see the Cloud SIG be a way to get
>>> the word about CloudStack into audiences that typically only ever
>>> hear about OpenStack. (Yes, I have split loyalties here, and that's
>>> fine.)
>>>
>>> Anyways, a reminder that we will be having this meeting on
>>> #centos-devel at
>>> 15:00 UTC *tomorrow*, and it would be awesome to at least have some
>>> representation from the CloudStack community there to ask the right
>>> questions and see what we can do, on the CentOS side, to fix these
>>> cloud-init problems and bring CloudStack some more of the CentOS
>>> spotlight. Or even just show up so that folks can meet you and we
>>> can figure out if there's anything we can do to help one another.
>>>
>>> --Rich
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

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