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From Daan Hoogland <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] 4.6 release management
Date Fri, 24 Apr 2015 13:53:48 GMT
Rohit, the issues you mention are not as painful if we release in a
two week schedule as the period of creating a fix to seeing it in a
release will be shorter. Some releases will be broken for some people,
I don't think we can prevent this. The target we are aiming for is to
big to cover it completely.
Your points are valid, though.
.1 a three person release team makes sense. I have been really happy
with the help I got from Pierre-Luc and I think David can do with help
the coming time as well.
.2 Hopefully people won't need to test every release so extensively
anymore as the changes become smaller. (and my initial remark the
above applies as well)

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Rohit Yadav <> wrote:
> I think we need to have a faster release management to speed up process in general, and
for that I propose that we have at least two co-pilots for the release manager who would support
them with things like reviewing/merging patches, creating RC candidates etc whenever necessary.
Having only one person as a release manager can become a bottleneck for a speedy release.
> The other issue is getting people to test a (release) branch, fix bugs and expect a review/result
in 72 hours. This has usually failed if people are busy and not getting enough time for this.
As an example, I think 4.5 is delayed because it lacked people actively testing it or fixing
issues, or when issues were found only around the RC testing period which delayed RC voting
by 1-2 weeks every time that happened. (I’ll post details about where I think we are wrt
4.5 in another thread).
>> On 17-Apr-2015, at 12:49 am, Pierre-Luc Dion <> wrote:
>> Today during the CloudStackdays  we did a round table about Release
>> management targeting the next 4.6 releases.
>> Quick bullet point discussions:
>> ideas to change release planning
>>   - Plugin contribution is complicated because often  a new plugin involve
>>   change on the core:
>>      - ex: storage plugin involve changes on Hypervisor code
>>   - There is an idea of going on a 2 weeks release model which could
>>   introduce issue the database schema.
>>   - Database schema version should be different then the application
>>   version.
>>   - There is a will to enforce git workflow in 4.6  and trigger simulator
>>   job on  PullRequest.
>>   - Some people (I'm part of them) are concerned on our current way of
>>   supporting and back porting fixes to multiple release (4.3.x, 4.4.x,
>>   4.5.x). But the current level of confidence against latest release is low,
>>   so that need to be improved.
>> So, the main messages is that w'd like to improve the release velocity, and
>> release branch stability.  so we would like to propose few change in the
>> way we would add code to the 4.6 branch as follow:
>> - All new contribution to 4.6 would be thru Pull Request or merge request,
>> which would trigger a simulator job, ideally only if that pass the PR would
>> be accepted and automatically merged.  At this time, I think we pretty much
>> have everything in place to do that. At a first step we would use
>> simulator+marvin jobs then improve tests coverage from there.
>> Please comments :-)
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
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