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From Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Next ACS release?
Date Wed, 22 Apr 2015 08:08:11 GMT
I strongly advice my fellow community members to go for a lower
duration, not longer. Each feature deserves a release and I'd say
let's release every 2 months, provides a new feature was added. Also
we now release fix releases when we feel the urgency. This means
users, that are not also developers have little influence. Let's
release every two weeks, provided fixes where applicable.

€0,02++
wanting to get out of this vicious circle is my drive

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Stephen Turner
<Stephen.Turner@citrix.com> wrote:
> I have to admit I'm a bit sceptical because when we did have a four-month release cycle,
we never seemed to manage to meet it. Personally I think six-monthly might be easier.
>
> Having said that, part of the problem was the long close-down period where we kept finding
critical bugs, so more automated testing might help to shorten the cycle.
>
> --
> Stephen Turner
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrei Mikhailovsky [mailto:andrei@arhont.com]
> Sent: 21 April 2015 11:39 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Next ACS release?
>
> Ilya, Mark, thanks for your feedback,
>
> I also see the need to restructure the release schedule for ACS as the current release
cycles are not really working. There is no _reliable_ release cycle of the product and as
we have recently seen with the 4.5 branch, the release did not happen for months and it is
still not clear when this will take place. In my (I must admit somewhat limited) experience
if there are no deadlines, developers are not keen on releases and the release are likely
to be delayed. This is what we've seen with the past ACS releases, they are overdue by many
months.
>
> The community might get a much better responce if there is a much shorter release cycle
even if it means pushing out less features with each release. At least some features will
get completed, tested and implemented in a set time frame. I would rather see a release cycle
of every 3-4 months with 5 new features than a release with 15 new features which may or may
not get released every 9 - 12 months.
>
> By any means, please comment if someone disagrees or thinks there is a better alternative.
>
> Andrei
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: "ilya" <ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com>
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 April, 2015 7:30:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Next ACS release?
>
>> Andrei,
>
>> To best of my knowledge, both 4.4.x and 4.5.x are being worked on
>> actively. As a community, we need to get better on QA of each release
>> -
>> this is something we are planning to cover this year with distributed
>> QA model, this was not widely discussed yet but something we need to
>> tackle.
>
>> 4.5 rc2 got stalled and we need to restart. We had a 4 month release
>> cycle, but we can really stick to it hard - as its community driven.
>> May
>> will have to revise it down to 6 months or so.
>
>> Regards
>> ilya
>
>> On 4/21/15 1:26 AM, Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote:
>> > Hello guys,
>> >
>> > Looking at the dev and user lists it is becoming less certain if
>> > version 4.5.x is ever coming out. It seems like a few months have
>> > passed since the not so fortunate release of 4.5.0 and I can't find
>> > a release schedule for the 4.5.1, which seems to have stopped at rc2
>> > stage and haven't progressed further to a release stage.
>> >
>> > Are we likely to see any progress with the 4.5.x branch or is the
>> > community switching towards the 4.6.x branch without releasing the
>> > 4.5.x?
>> >
>> > I am a bit unclear as there are no release dates, schedules or dead
>> > lines that the community should work with. Possibly as a result of
>> > this, the ACS releases are not being released on time or fast
>> > enough.
>> >
>> > Does it make sense to introduce release schedules for ACS that the
>> > dev community should stick to? Similar to what is being done in many
>> > other projects, like Ubuntu, etc. Or would this break the ACS
>> > project releases even more?
>> >
>> > Andrei
>> >



-- 
Daan

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