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From Giles Sirett <giles.sir...@shapeblue.com>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] Automatic usage reporting / call-home for CloudStack
Date Fri, 12 Dec 2014 10:11:27 GMT
Hi Wido

I recently had a thought on this.

Although I would be loathed that anybody has to "register" ACS when they use it, it would
be good if we could differentiate between  production deployments and lab/bench deployments.
From the marketing perspective, we've got this crazy situation where we KNOW that there are
many 100's of people running ACS but still only 70 people told us about their use in the last
survey.
The problem is, if we don’t differentiate between prod/lab - then the data you collect will
be padded with people running it in their home labs.

I'm not sure how we can go about doing this. The simplest thing would be a global setting,
but where would the incentive be for people to change that setting when they put something
into production ?

Another approach, which some may think controversial, would be that we do an "about"  screen/page
that allows people to change this setting.
This screen could display a summary of version, #pods, clusters,etc (all the standard stuff
people need to find out about their system) - so it would be useful for people
It could also contain info on how to join/access the community/ML's for support and (most
controversially)  it could give people the option to put in some basic company information
if they wished.
I totally understand that the last bit may be a thought too far some some people


Kind Regards
Giles

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-----Original Message-----
From: Wido den Hollander [mailto:wido@widodh.nl]
Sent: 01 December 2014 18:08
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Automatic usage reporting / call-home for CloudStack



On 12/01/2014 06:40 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> +1
>
> Wido, will the statistics be accessible online for everyone (like
> real-time) or will the PMC release aggregated data periodically?
>

I was thinking to keep the data PMC-only to start with and indeed release aggregated data
periodically.

> On Monday 01 December 2014 06:38 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> As a project we currently don't have a lot of insight information on
>> about how CloudStack is being used. Surveys tell us a lot, but not
>> everybody fills in the survey, so we still miss a lot of information.
>>
>> That's why I've written the Usage Reporting functionality for the
>> management server which automatically sends back anonymous
>> information about a CloudStack deployment.
>>
>> It's currently in the 'reporter' branch. [0]
>>
>> By default, every 7 days it generates a JSON document with:
>> - Hosts (Number, version, type, hypervisor)
>> - Clusters (Hypervisor en Management type)
>> - Primary storage (Type and provider)
>> - Zones (Network type and providers)
>> - Instances (Number and types)
>>
>> This report is not complete yet, I'd like to add more information,
>> but that will be Management Server information.
>>
>> The code on how this report is generated is obviously 100% Open
>> Source, so end-users can always exactly see how the information was compiled.
>>
>> I want to discuss this new feature for CloudStack and the possible
>> implications it might have.
>>
>> I'm opting for a opt-out. So every new or upgraded install to 4.6.0
>> (master) will have this enabled. Yes, we have to be very explicit in
>> the Release Notes that this has been added.
>>
>> Why? It's the small price we as a project ask for using CloudStack.
>> We want a little bit of information on how CloudStack is being used
>> so that we can use this to make CloudStack even better.
>>
>> Turning it off is also just one global setting and it will never turn
>> on again.
>>
>> On the server-side there is a Python flask application [1] (found in
>> the reporter directory) which stores all the incoming information in
>> a ElasticSearch database. From there analytics can be gathered on
>> CloudStack deployments.
>>
>> It currently points to http://cs-report.widodh.nl/report which will
>> NOT be the endpoint when this is merged into master.
>>
>> For 'production' I want to have
>> https://report.cloudstack.apache.org/report where all reports are
>> submitted.
>>
>> For every setup a unique ID is determined by hashing the first row in
>> the 'version' table. This is the version + timestamp and that is
>> hashed using SHA256. Using this unique ID we can track changes in
>> deployments and see how they grow or shrink.
>>
>> Technically this wasn't that hard to implement, but the politics
>> surrounding it might be the hardest part.
>>
>> What do other have to say about this? Should there be a VOTE for this
>> feature to come into CloudStack? Opt-in, opt-out?
>>
>> Wido
>>
>> [0]:
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=shortlog;h
>> =refs/heads/reporter
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=blob;f=rep
>> orter/usage-report-collector.py;h=500a4d284b5172fd93acea08f5460cfff55
>> 20855;hb=reporter
>>
>>
>
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