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From Marcus <>
Subject Re: Debian packaging discussed during CCCEU2014
Date Thu, 20 Nov 2014 18:50:49 GMT
For RPMs, the script that sets things up for rpmbuild could do
the mvn if we wanted to keep the RPM build process from downloading.
Something similar could be done from DEB, perhaps.

The dependencies thing though will be interesting to work out. It's a bit
unfortunate, IMO, because it reduces cross-platform compatibility and
compromises portability to have to target platform versions of libraries.
Inevitably we'll run into issues (as we have with libvirt jars, for

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Wido den Hollander <> wrote:

> I've sat down with some peope who are better in Debian packaging then I
> am and this is what we came up with:
> For Debian packages it is forbidden that during build it downloads
> external resources. Maven does this and that prevents CloudStack from
> ever going into the Debian repositories.
> We should not package all the JAR dependencies we have, but we should
> try to depend on packages available in Debian.
> Debian has a Wiki available for this:
> With some helpers we can make sure that Maven does not use external
> resources for dependencies, but uses locally available JAR files from
> the Debian repo.
> That is a thing which will take some serious time and we will run into
> problems there. Don't expect this to be done tomorrow.
> Our debian/rules file isn't really clean. They are going to look into
> this to make better use of debhelper.
> We might want to reach out to the packaging teams inside Debian to see
> if we can form a (small) team which can maintain the Debian packages for
> CloudStack.
> As a project we should watch for the RPM and DEB packages not drifting
> apart, since the user experience on both platforms should be equal.
> Wido

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