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From Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: [QUESTION] How come we don't include Users@ in vote threads?
Date Mon, 17 Nov 2014 07:24:55 GMT
My suggestions and comments;

- Build a rpm/deb repository before you start voting (we can use packages.shapeblue.com/cloudstack/testing)

- Tag each Voting Candidate (using a -vc or -rc suffix followed by the round number, for example
4.4.2-rc-01) and we build rpm/deb repo using tags.

- This repo can be used by both developers and users

- Let everyone participate, any contribution should we welcomed, so email all - dev@ and users@
and user-cn@. AFAIK, there is no *rule* stopping us from doing it so I recommend the release
manager should do it. Of course this has to be at their discretion and judgement.

- 72 hours (during weekdays, not weekends) limit should be good enough for everyone, by increasing
this limit we risk delaying the release. If a weekend lies in a voting window, historically
we've added additional weekend days as well, so the voting window can go upto 120 hours. Typically
I’ve seen 4 voting rounds for any release, that means delaying release by at least 3 weeks.
The other argument is, it may not be enough for developers as well. So, if you don’t find
it enough - you should start a new thread as I think it's a different topic than this email.

> On 17-Nov-2014, at 12:32 pm, Erik Weber <terbolous@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Pierre-Luc Dion <pdion891@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree that more tests are welcome, we have to try then :)
>>
>>
> On the other side, how many devs can say that they really like to do
> thorough release testing? My guess is that it's a rather small number.
> By adding users, and if testing actually gains any momentum, you can
> hopefully have faith in that the release has been tested and free up some
> developer time to do more development :-)
>
> There's one thing that should be thought of though. Users might not pay
> attention to dev@ and might not know when to expect an RC.
> So I think a 72 hours time limit for users to test is gonna be to little,
> $dayjobs and personal lifes might not allow all to just throw whatever
> they're doing to start testing.
>
> I'm not sure what the best way to remedy it is, if it's to extend the time
> window or introduce another term/phase.
>
> --
> Erik

Regards,
Rohit Yadav
Software Architect, ShapeBlue
M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com
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