Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cloudstack-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cloudstack-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F401111C01 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55299 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2014 09:47:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cloudstack-dev-archive@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 55253 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2014 09:47:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cloudstack.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 55237 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jul 2014 09:47:30 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:47:30 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [109.72.87.139] (HELO smtp02.mail.pcextreme.nl) (109.72.87.139) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:47:25 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2a02:f6e:8008:0:692e:227:66fc:92a2] (unknown [IPv6:2a02:f6e:8008:0:692e:227:66fc:92a2]) by smtp02.mail.pcextreme.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 56F0140941 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:47:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53CE3317.8090907@widodh.nl> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:47:03 +0200 From: Wido den Hollander User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] *LET'S ABANDON 4.4* References: <53CE29C2.6080407@widodh.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 07/22/2014 11:15 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: >> On 07/22/2014 08:28 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: >>> >>> I had no vote's on the last release candidate. I move we abandon >>> releasing 4.4 or stop releasing at all. >>> >> >> So this is not a good thing. Honestly, yes, I didn't vote, I'm truly sorry >> for that, but didn't I see other votes come along? > This was not a personal attack on you or anybody. I must apologize for > sending it. > I feel guilty for not voting, but I didn't see your e-mail as a personal attack. I'm just not happy with the fact that I didn't get to it. > ... >> I saw a vote being abandoned due to a bad quorum, right? > yes, that is the source for my sarcasm. I felt sorry as I sent it. the > reason of my frustration is a very bad sign though. > Fully agree, there shouldn't be that much frustration around a release, that is a very bad sign which should be resolved asap. > I have been thinking if this is a +1/0/-1 on my job as RM and I don't > know. I do know that I wouldn't have minded a -1 as much as not > knowing. > > I will not abandon this work just yet but I have to threaten you all > that I this is the way to make me contemplate so. > Understood! Wido