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From Todd Pigram <t...@toddpigram.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
Date Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:37:23 GMT
Just wondering if it would be easier to just make the management server
into a virtual appliance then recoding everything to run on Windows (not to
mention all the patches every month). The enterprises that I come in
contact with don't seem to have an issue with vCD. I don't know how the
foundation looks at virtual appliances, but maybe that is more of a Citrix
thing on their supported version.

Just a thought.

Todd




On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>wrote:

> I don't know if you guys already know this, but the mounting of sec
> storage on the management server to pass the systemvm.iso is also done when
> using hyper-v as well. So for hyper-v, samba support is required on the
> management server.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Angus
> Cloud Architect
> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus
> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelven Yang [mailto:kelven.yang@citrix.com]
> Sent: 25 February 2014 23:07
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
>
> Current way of mounting NFS into management server is the legacy of the
> rushing old days when VMware support was originally built. To get rid of
> NFS mount in management server, we should file it as a feature request
> along with the Windowsfication effort
>
> Kelven
>
> On 2/25/14, 1:54 PM, "Alex Huang" <Alex.Huang@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> >Damodar,
> >
> >I think you'll find that earlier in the thread I have said that these
> >should not be part of the management server startup but rather the
> >install.  The install scripts for Linux is probably python or shell
> >script based.  The install for windows is an app that can do this work.
> >
> >Other than these, the main problem for you will be the VmWare code that
> >mounts secondary storage to the management server machine.  That's a
> >design flaw in VmWare code that we should rectify.  You can speak to
> >Kelven about how to fix that.
> >
> >--Alex
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:Damoder.Reddy@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:48 PM
> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >>
> >> Hi Alex,
> >>
> >>  Apart from agent scripts, there are couple of scripts those gets
> >>executed for  during the management server startup like injecting ssh
> >>keys into  systemvm.iso etc.. Still I am in search of any other
> >>scripts will get called in  management server, though I could not find
> >>any as of now.
> >>
> >> Thanks & Regards
> >> Damodar/
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alex Huang [mailto:Alex.Huang@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:10 AM
> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >>
> >> Abhi,
> >>
> >> I think you misunderstood.  I meant that it should not depend on
> >>things later  releases like .net framework.  See the following wiki
> >>page.
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework#Versions
> >>
> >> I would imagine .net framework 3 or 3.5 would be ideal.  If you use
> >> .net framework 4, then libraries need to be installed and they
> >> sometimes have conflicts with existing apps.
> >>
> >>
> >> As for python or shell scripts, I don't see why we should need any
> >>python  scripts on management server, regardless if it's windows or
> >>Linux.
> >>Python
> >> scripts can be included and executed by agents on Linux systems but I
> >>don't  see a place for them on the management server.  For windows,
> >>specifically,  asking a windows admin to install python is not unlike
> >>asking them to install  Cygwin.
> >>
> >> --Alex
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:Abhinandan.Prateek@citrix.com]
> >> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:31 PM
> >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> >
> >> > Yes, that is one of the objective to make MS not dependant on
> >> > cygwin or any other windows tools and utilities. The bash scripts
> >> > are all
> >>converted
> >> to Python.
> >> >
> >> > -abhi
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 25/02/14 12:06 am, "Alex Huang" <Alex.Huang@citrix.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >One additional requirement I have would be don't use any windows
> >> > >components that don't come with the default systems targeted.  I
> >> > >know it sounds great to use the latest and greatest but actually
> >> > >the end users will have to install that and it may mess with their
> >> > >existing setup.  In this proposal, the purely windows parts are
> >> > >fairly basic parts of windows.  Don't bind it to libraries that
> >> > >require installation of additional libraries.
> >> > >
> >> > >--Alex
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: Donal Lafferty [mailto:donal.lafferty@citrix.com]
> >> > >> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:00 AM
> >> > >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I prefer the focus on support that comes with David's suggestion.
> >> > >>Targeting
> >> > >> the latest stable release for a new platform greatly reduces the
> >> > >>number of  permutations to test.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Pursuing legacy systems limits the flexibility of ACS to evolve.
> >> > >>For instance,  we'll probably be on Java 7 in the next while, and
> >> > >>W2K3 doesn't appear on  the supported system list (see
> >> > >>https://www.java.com/en/download/help/sysreq.xml).  Likewise,
> >> > >>older versions of Internet Explorer can be quite different than
> >> > >>what Microsoft has  recently published.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> My guess is that the engineering effort to get ACS working on
a
> >> > >> legacy system makes sense as a consultancy service offered
> >> > >> independent
> >> > to ACS.
> >> > >> That's the case of OS/2 support ;)
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> DL
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:alex.hitchins@shapeblue.com]
> >> > >> > Sent: 20 February 2014 14:29
> >> > >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I agree totally, my point was that while there is nothing
> >> > >> > technically stopping us going for w2k3 there is little reason
> >> > >> > to
> >>do so.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Regards
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Alex Hitchins
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423
> >> > >> > 969
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > alex.hitchins@shapeblue.com
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> >> > >> > Sent: 20 February 2014 13:24
> >> > >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > There's a difference in incidentally working and validated
to
> >>work on.
> >> > >> > I'd limit focus to making sure it works on 2k12r2.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --David
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Alex Hitchins
> >> > >> > <alex.hitchins@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > > I can't think of anything that wouldn't be possible
on W2k3
> >> > >> > > - that said It's
> >> > >> > old and I can't see people having a need for it.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Regards
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Alex Hitchins
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788
423
> >> > >> > > 969
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > alex.hitchins@shapeblue.com
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.angus@shapeblue.com]
> >> > >> > > Sent: 20 February 2014 11:17
> >> > >> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Isn't the hyper-v support dependant on using 2012r2
?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > So I don't know if I'd bother with going back as far
as 2003
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Regards,
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Paul Angus
> >> > >> > > Cloud Architect
> >> > >> > > S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
> >> > >> > > paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.battala@citrix.com]
> >> > >> > > Sent: 20 February 2014 11:13
> >> > >> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > AFAIK, it would be windows server 2k3, 2k8 2012, 2012R2.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Thanks
> >> > >> > > Rajesh Battala
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:Damoder.Reddy@citrix.com]
> >> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:32 PM
> >> > >> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > One question I have is, Which version of windows we
need to
> >>target?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Thanks & Regards
> >> > >> > > Damodar/
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:Damoder.Reddy@citrix.com]
> >> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:04 PM
> >> > >> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > I have tried to put all together in FS at
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Cloudstack+Win
> >> > >> > dowsfication as Feedback section and added my comments there.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Please verify once and let me know if anything is to
be
> >> > >> > > added
> >>there.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Thanks & Regards
> >> > >> > > Damodar/
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:Damoder.Reddy@citrix.com]
> >> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:32 PM
> >> > >> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Thank you all for your inputs.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >  I will aggregate all these things into FS  as appendix
and
> >> > >> > > will put comments
> >> > >> > there instead of replying here one by one. Once I am done
with
> >> > >> > update in FS I will notify so that we can verify whether
we
> >> > >> > are covering all
> >> > >>or not.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Thanks & Regards
> >> > >> > > Damodar/
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > > From: abhisek basu [mailto:abhisekbasu@msn.com]
> >> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:16 AM
> >> > >> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > > Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Getting a Windows version will expand ACS reach to a
large
> >> > >> > > no of audience and make it more OS independent from
its
> >> > >> > > core. As far as the tools are concern, I am sure it's
> >> > >> > > achievable, we have the most enthusiastic community
> >> > >> > > contributors behind :)
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Sent from my iPhone
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >> On 16 Feb 2014, at 1:08 am, "Alex Hitchins"
> >> > >> > <alex.hitchins@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> I would guess that Windows has tools for managing
a large
> >> > >> > >> number of
> >> > >> > Hyper-V hosts? I wonder what ACS would add to that.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> I still think it would be a very achievable goal
and worth
> >>doing.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Regards
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Alex Hitchins
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44
7788 423
> >> > >> > >> 969
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> alex.hitchins@shapeblue.com
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > >> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.angus@shapeblue.com]
> >> > >> > >> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:49
> >> > >> > >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > >> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> My view is that anyone who wants to use Hyper-V
is very
> >> > >> > >> unlikely to want
> >> > >> > to have Linux based management servers lurking around, because
> >> > >> > I think they'll be pretty wedded to Microsoft to want Hyper-V
> >> > >> > as the hypervisor. So being able to deploy windows based
> >> > >> > management servers seems essential to the use of Hyper-V
(for
> >> > >> > better or
> >>worse).
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> I think also there are probably a lot of Windows
based
> >> > >> > >> Enterprises who
> >> > >> > also wouldn't like to a couple of stray Linux boxes running
> >> > >> > the
> >>show.
> >> > >> > I guess Microsoft think there is a market for Windows based
> >> > >> > private clouds or they wouldn't have created the Behemoth
that
> >> > >> > is the Azure
> >> > >>Pack.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> ...and Apache Tomcat have managed to create a windows
port
> >> > >> > >> - so how hard can it be? [tic]
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Regards
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Paul Angus
> >> > >> > >> Cloud Architect
> >> > >> > >> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus
> >> > >> > >> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > >> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> >> > >> > >> Sent: 15 February 2014 18:29
> >> > >> > >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Windowsfication Of ACS
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Alex Huang
> >> > >> > >>> <Alex.Huang@citrix.com>
> >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > >> > >>> I see this as that CS management server should
run
> >> > >> > >>> anywhere java
> >> > >> runs.
> >> > >> > However, I see quite a few holes in this proposal.
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>> - Management server should never have mounted
the NFS
> >> > secondary
> >> > >> > storage.  We need to fix that.  Please have a talk with Kelven
> >> > >> > about this.  I don't see us adding Samba to any machine that
> >> > >> > runs the management server.  If this is just about seeding
the
> >> > >> > system template, it can be done as part of installation rather
> >> > >> > than management
> >> > server.
> >> > >> > >>> - If I truly think about Windowsification, I
think windows
> >> > >> > >>> installer,
> >> > >> > windows service, opening ports in windows firewall.  I don't
> >> > >> > see any of that here.  Or else it's useless for windows people.
> >> > >> > >>>        - For java, most people write a windows
service
> >> > >> > >>> that launches the
> >> > >> > jvm and keeps track of the jvm.
> >> > >> > >>> - There's a number of things that CloudStack
management
> >> > >> > >>> server does
> >> > >> > today at startup that should not be there and those are what
> >> > >>complicates
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > windowfication.   These things should be moved out of the
> >> > management
> >> > >> > server and into installation.  What should be inside the
> >> > >> > management server startup procedure should be checks, rather
> >> > >> > than
> >> generations.
> >> > >> > It should check for ssh key exists and the database version
> >> > >> > matches etc but it should not do the following.
> >> > >> > >>>        - Upgrade of the database
> >> > >> > >>>        - ssh key generation
> >> > >> > >>>        - iso generation.
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>> --Alex
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> A couple of more to add to the list.
> >> > >> > >> There isn't really a good binary software dependency
> >> > >> > >> resolution framework for Windows (at least not that
I am
> >> > >> > >> aware
> >> > >> > >> of) and you potentially need lots of different things
-
> >> > >> > >> mysql libraries, python, ipmitool, or another shell
to
> >> > >> > >> execute
> >>shell scripts.
> >> > >> > >> Look at the list of the dependencies we install
in the RPMs
> >> > >> > >> for an idea of things that are missing. Is the plan
to
> >> > >> > >> bundle those in the binaries? (If so, we need to
be having
> >> > >> > >> a serious discussion around a shift of a number
system
> >> > >> > >> requirements to dependencies which may or may not
be
> >> > >> > >> acceptable.) With what appears to be some serious
> >> > >> > >> refactoring in how the
> >> > >> > management server works that Alex outlines and I doubt this
is
> >> > >> > a short term goal. (e.g. 4.4 timeframe). If you are going
to
> >> > >> > take on all of the refactoring work, please start by building
> >> > >> > tests that prove that it all works today and then verify
the
> >> > >> > same behavior in the
> >> > >>refactored work.
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> --David
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