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From Animesh Chaturvedi <>
Subject RE: Release Criteria
Date Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:38:49 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley []
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:47 PM
> To:
> Subject: Release Criteria
> Hi folks,
> One of the things I've been pondering of late is a set of release
> criteria. E.g. here is what CloudStack MUST do to be considered for
> release.
> So as background there is a somewhat complex social contract that I
> think we informally enter with our users. People expect us to release
> when we project - and we (IMO) damage the credibility of the project by
> suggesting a date and then missing, sometimes by a wide margin. In
> reading some of the documentation that other folks have around Time-
> based releases, I really like one of the analogies that Ubuntu uses [1]
> which is that of a play in a theatre. Things may not be perfect, people
> may not absolutely know all of their lines, but tickets have been sold,
> the audience is standing outside waiting to come in, and it's a pretty
> drastic event for the show not to go on.
> At the same time, bringing multiple RCs forward which get voted down
> doesn't necessarily inspire confidence. Some of this is caused by our
> lack of comprehensive testing. I think many people have an innate sense
> of what they think CloudStack should deliver in a product release; but
> we also have a number of people who suggest that they are timid in
> signing off on a product release simply because of the scope.
> I think we should actively be setting the expectations of consumers of
> our product. Particularly in the short term when we don't have
> completely comprehensive testing, having a standard that we can test to
> that is our 'minimum acceptable' makes sense in my mind.
> I am going to spend a few days drafting a set of criteria, and I'll post
> it to the wiki, and ask for feedback and help in refining it, just
> wanted to give a heads up on what I am thinking, and hopefully get some
> consensus around it being a worthwhile thing.
> --David
[Animesh>] The thread has gone off topic. I am +1 on having a well-defined release criterion
that is agreed upon. David looking forward to your draft and ready to help shape it
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