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From Prasanna Santhanam <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: community testing
Date Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:02:13 GMT
CloudStack API actions are agnostic of underlying infrastructure and
most cases can fall into such a category as you describe. But imagine
this - I want to test snapshots ..

so i take a snapshot and verify if it backedup correctly against a
ceph object store, nfs store or iscsi store. that sort of test is
going to involve more than just api actions.

or say - i want to test multiple shared networks a VM gets deployed
into. Do I assume the deployment has multiple shared networks? Can i
add my own network into the deployment?

or even - I want to exhaust all the public network IPs and check if
the next deployed VM picks up an IP in the new public range I've
added. This sort of test assumes that all the necessary networking is
in place and also hurts VM deployments of all tests that run at the
same time.

It's a difficult balance to strike but we have to begin somewhere.
Start with the basic minimum that every infra can run. infra specifc
tests skip if thing are unsuitable, but will run for someone who wants
to test that feature

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:53:15PM -0700, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> That's a good question, I'm not sure how preconditions work with
> Marvin cases, but I know the tests are run generically. Say I run
> copyvolumeToPrimary (not sure this test exists, hypothetical at the
> moment), it gets run against a slew of infrastructure configurations
> using local storage as well as shared (NSF, iscsi, ceph...) back
> ends. So just dropping my test into a storage suite should give it
> some guarantee its hitting a few different storage back-ends. That's
> how i understand it works today, I'll defer to Prasanna or Sudha...
> Or anyone else that runs tests aggressively to fill in the gaps and
> make corrections.
> 
> Ahmad
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > But if the test requires some sort of preconfiguration, what then (e.g. test NFS
primary storage would need a local or remote NFS configured)? do I need to roll my own, or
can I touch the existing test infra and do the preconfigure?
> > 
> > On Sep 11, 2013 12:34 AM, "Prasanna Santhanam" <tsp@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Yes - Once your test goes into the repo, it should get picked in the subsequent
> >> run.
> >> 
> >> Jenkins installations from various companies can be combined into a single
> >> landing page. Jenkins itself doesn't support master/slave but it does through
> >> the gearman plugin. It's something I have tried using with VMs but not with
> >> real infra - but it is entirely possible.
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:17:53PM -0700, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
> >> > I think there are jenkins slaves that run the nicera plugins on/at Schuberg
> >> > Philis housed infrastructure. The Citrix jenkins nodes also runs as slaves
> >> > that connect back to the apache owned/controlled jenkins. No reason why
> >> > testing infra need be so consolidated, it just so happens no one is putting
> >> > their hardware where their mouth is.
> >> >
> >> > I also assume if your marvin tests get accepted upstream, they'll be
> >> > included in the nightly runs/reports. Prasanna correct me if I'm wrong.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > CloudStack Dev,
> >> > >     I was emailed about some of the testing questions I brought up
> >> > > over the last few threads, and a few things were pointed out to me
> >> > > that I think we should try to remedy.  Primarily, that the testing
> >> > > environment is owned by Citrix, the QA team is primarily Citrix-run,
> >> > > and the testing done is focused on the use models that Citrix
> >> > > develops.
> >> > >     I've been assured that the test infrastructure is for everyone,
> >> > > and I'm not at all trying to say that there's a problem with Citrix
> >> > > focusing their work on their own interests, but I'm not sure that
> >> > > anyone outside of Citrix really knows how to add their own stuff to
> >> > > this testing infrastructure (perhaps for lack of trying, I don't
> >> > > know).
> >> > >     I haven't really put together enough thought to know how to tackle
> >> > > this, but my gut tells me that we need some sort of community-owned
> >> > > testing roll-up, where everyone can do their own testing in whatever
> >> > > infrastructure and submit hourly, daily, weekly results. If my test
> >> > > fits into the Citrix test infrastructure and I can figure out how
to
> >> > > get it there, great. If not, I can roll my own and integrate it via
> >> > > some API. For example the SolidFire guys may wan to run automated
> >> > > regression testing. That probably won't be doable in the Citrix
> >> > > infrastructure, but they may want to script a daily
> >> > > git-pull/build/deploy zone/create volume and it seems logical that
> >> > > we'd want to support it.
> >> > >     Thoughts? Anyone have experience with such things? Can we have
a
> >> > > master/slave scenario with Jenkins? Perhaps the Citrix environment
> >> > > already supports something like this via Jenkins API?
> >> > >
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Prasanna.,
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