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From Alex Huang <Alex.Hu...@citrix.com>
Subject RE: we like dev better then users :(
Date Thu, 01 Aug 2013 22:54:53 GMT
Hi Daan,

Sorry I meant to subject tag your email so people who's interested in helping can easily get
to them.

--Alex

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:11 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :(
> 
> Alex, what do you mean by tag? Most of what I did is my personal judgement,
> hardly any automation involved.
> 
> I hope we can give some folow up to this. I think the dev report is useful. The
> users report is less useful however. I am lagging a week behind. In most
> cases people would have answered if they had the time/knowledge earlier.
> 
> What worries me most is the tone I see in messages on the users list.
> I report only on messages that are not answered at all. Some others I
> happened to stumble upon are polemic rants. Of course these are not the
> 'average' users that will go to a dev list first, before tone down their mails.
> 
> I do not know if we are equipped to handle this properly. One thing I can do
> is find an earlier moment next week to make my report.
> 
> regards,
> Daan
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage <kelcey@bbits.ca>
> wrote:
> > You can always send them over to IRC where I am. Usually it's easier to
> handle support in real-time.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Huang" <Alex.Huang@citrix.com>
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:15:08 AM
> > Subject: RE: we like dev better then users :(
> >
> > Daan,
> >
> > This is a great service you're providing to the community!  I will go to my
> management and see if we can lend some support in terms of following up
> on your list.  Do you want to tag it so if I do get some resources, we have an
> easy way to filter in your report?
> >
> > --Alex
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:41 AM
> >> To: dev
> >> Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :(
> >>
> >> Wido, I am not urging you or anybody to keep better track of this. It
> >> is a marketing issue. That is the only point I am trying to make. I
> >> am notorious at not reading user lists ever, myself.
> >>
> >> DaanOps
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I think the following list speaks for itself
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Although it's really good that you point this out I took the
> >> > following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by
> >> > resolving bugs and writing new features.
> >> >
> >> > In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list
> >> > and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something.
> >> >
> >> > For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list
> >> > and work on $dayjob
> >> >
> >> > It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is
> >> > hard
> >> > enough) is my main priority.
> >> >
> >> > Wido
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after
> >> >> upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to
> >> >> create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang
> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up
> networking
> >> on
> >> >> single machine by Philip Andrews
> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len
> >> >> Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue
> >> >> with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu
> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import
> questions
> >> by
> >> >> Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb
> >> windows
> >> >> vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1
> >> >> by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge
> >> >> Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang
> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl
> >> >> vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka
> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on
> >> >> primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard
> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by
> >> >> Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x
> >> >> ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv
> >> >> Networking by Boyer, Marc
> >> >>
> >> >> regards,
> >> >> Daan
> >> >>
> >> >

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