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From David Nalley <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Bylaw changes for new committer / new PMC member votes
Date Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:40:42 GMT
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Chip Childers
<> wrote:
> As it stands now, we currently use a "Lazy Consensus" model (yes Noah, I
> know we didn't define that term correctly as of now, but I think that's
> a different discussion).  We currently have that term defined as:
>> Lazy Consensus - Lazy consensus requires 3 binding +1 votes and no
>> binding -1 votes.
> I'd like to propose that we change the PMC and committer voting rule to
> use the Lazy 2/3 Majority approach defined as:
>> Lazy 2/3 majority votes requires at least 3 binding votes and twice as
>> many binding +1 votes as binding -1 votes.
> Are there any objections to me starting a VOTE on this change?

So despite this arising from a discussion I originated, I am not sure
I want to see this go away. As frustrating as it is to, we are a
community built on consensus, and even if we can't get that around
adding PMC and committer votes, I am not sure that it's wise to add
new folks. Requiring no dissent is a powerful enabler for individuals,
even if it occasionally thwarts the will of the majority. Having seen
other projects with a majority rules approach to this, I don't see
them as better off. While  I might disagree with some of my fellow PMC
members, I still respect their decision, and hope that when I am the
person casting a -1, they'll respect mine as well.


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