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From Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com>
Subject Re: FW: Win7 License key?
Date Wed, 03 Jul 2013 19:17:45 GMT
I assume that this was sent to the wrong "dev" list, given the $dayjob
specific bits.

However, perhaps these items should actually be discussed within the
project itself?

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:32:06PM +0000, Donal Lafferty wrote:
> Hi Ram / Manan,
> 
> Devdeep added you to a meeting to discuss Hyper-V development on Tuesday.
> 
> If you've not already received it, the agenda is outlined below.
> 
> DL
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donal Lafferty
> > Sent: 28 June 2013 10:17 AM
> > To: Devdeep Singh
> > Cc: Will Chan; Kevin Kluge
> > Subject: RE: Win7 License key?
> > 
> > Hi Devdeep,
> > 
> > Can we meet today?  Will is out of the office, but Kevin should be around.
> > 
> > During the meeting I would like to go over the following topics:
> > 
> > First up is development strategy, namely division of labour.  From your
> > Linkedin profile, it looks like you're strongest with Windows.  However,
> > access to people familiar with CloudStack has been the blocker.  For instance,
> > your answer below is from a question asked ten days ago :(  If you work on
> > items that require collaboration from the India team, it will greatly speed
> > development.
> > 
> > Second is a series of tactical concerns that I'd like some input on.
> > 
> > 1.  The Hyper-V API used by CloudStack and OpenStack has been removed as
> > of Hyper-V 2012 R2.  If we update it, OpenStack might copy us.  Should we
> > hold off on publishing any updates until the plugin is good to go?
> > Alternatively, should we contract the open stack developer to update our
> > API calls?
> > 
> > 2.  Hyper-V Server 2012 does not have an NFS client, which prevents it from
> > using the existing staging strategy.  With other Hypervisors, images can be
> > downloaded from an object store to a NFS cache where they are
> > uncompressed and made ready for distribution to hypervisors.  Hyper-V
> > needs either a CIFS-based cache system, or it should pull directly from the
> > object store.  In the later case, you'd have to prevent users from creating
> > templates from compressed images.  What strategy should we pursue?  (this
> > needs deciding today)
> > 
> > 3.  The RDP console proxy code needs to be updated and deployed to a
> > system VM.  A contractor has produced an RDP proxy, but it does not provide
> > the correct handshaking required to select the virtual frame buffer for a
> > Hyper-V VM.  Also, the proxy has to be added to our system VM
> > infrastructure, which work that Rohit used to do.  Do we have any expertise
> > with RDP?Also, who is the System VM guru these days?
> > 
> > 4.  Instructions for the Hyper-V agent have been developed by replaying
> > JSON encoded kernel commands.  However, it has been extremely difficult
> > to get samples of the relevant commands.  What is a good strategy for
> > obtaining them?  The current one involves begging CloudStack developers to
> > provide debug logs, as testing don't appear to log the actual kernel
> > commands.
> > 
> > 5.  There's no DevCloud for Hyper-V.  To work on the plugin, I have deployed
> > a full CloudStack with Hyper-V servers as the hosts.  Is this something that is
> > reasonable to duplicate India?
> > 
> > 6.  Integrating with the Apache CloudStack build faces an IP hurdle and a
> > testing hurdle.  The IP issue concerns compiling the Hyper-V agent.  I use
> > VS2012SP1, which is a problem with for ASF.  Either we get the build working
> > with mono, or we distribute the agent ourselves in an MSI via codecomplex
> > or similar.  What are people's feelings on this?  The build only tests correctly
> > when it is run on a Hyper-V server.  As a result, unit tests are turned off by
> > default.  Is this reasonable?
> > 
> > I think that's enough for now :)
> > 
> > DL
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Devdeep Singh
> > > Sent: 27 June 2013 10:24 PM
> > > To: Donal Lafferty
> > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key?
> > >
> > > Hi Donal,
> > >
> > > Sorry, I didn't get back to you earlier. I was attending the apache
> > > collaboration conference and I forgot to reply to your mail. Really
> > > sorry. Were you able to get the bvt logs for attach and detach
> > > volumes? I was pointed to the attached mail by a colleague. Using the
> > > instructions in the mail I was able to locate the logs and look at the
> > > json examples of commands. See if it helps you.
> > >
> > > I also wanted to sync up with you on Hyper-V. I have gone through the
> > > mail chains on Hyper-V in the last six months. Would it be possible to
> > > get on a call so that I can get some queries answered? If so, what
> > > time will be suitable for you? I am in Santa Clara (PST) right now. I
> > > am here till mid next week (3rd of June). Will a call early next week
> > > work for you? If we have a call, Kevin or Will may join it too.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Devdeep
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Donal Lafferty
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:08 PM
> > > > To: Devdeep Singh
> > > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key?
> > > >
> > > > Okay, but the logs from the BVT are easier to get, no?
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Devdeep Singh
> > > > > Sent: 20 June 2013 9:53 PM
> > > > > To: Donal Lafferty
> > > > > Subject: RE: Win7 License key?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Donal,
> > > > >
> > > > > I generally use firebug plugin in firefox to look at the command
> > > > > and json response of any command. You can try it and see if it
> > > > > helps. Do let me know if it answers your query or are you looking
> > > > > for something
> > > else?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Devdeep
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Chiradeep Vittal
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:40 AM
> > > > > > To: Donal Lafferty
> > > > > > Cc: Devdeep Singh
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Win7 License key?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Donal
> > > > > > Sorry about that. I am busy packing for my vacation (starting
today).
> > > > > > I plan to try out the install on my vacation.
> > > > > > I have cc'ed Devdeep who is interested in getting up to speed
on
> > > Hyper-V.
> > > > > > Perhaps he can help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Chiradeep
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:28, "Donal Lafferty"
> > > > > > <donal.lafferty@citrix.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > HI Chiradeep,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did the Win7 key & image help?  Did you save a lot
of time?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe you could do me a favour & have a look at the
question
> > > > > > > about where
> > > > > > to get samples of the attach commands?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now normally I would not keep pestering, but general requests
> > > > > > > on IRC don't
> > > > > > work, the mailing list hasn't gotten back to me, and neither
> > > > > > have colleagues in Santa Clara.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: Donal Lafferty
> > > > > > >> Sent: 19 June 2013 11:36 PM
> > > > > > >> To: Chiradeep Vittal
> > > > > > >> Subject: RE: Win7 License key?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Could I ask for a JSON serialised AttachCommand and
> > > > > > >> DetachCommand in exchange?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Or could you recommend someone in QA who'd have one?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> DL
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >>> From: Chiradeep Vittal
> > > > > > >>> Sent: 19 June 2013 9:07 PM
> > > > > > >>> To: Donal Lafferty
> > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Win7 License key?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Yes, please and thank you!
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On 6/19/13 1:03 PM, "Donal Lafferty"
> > > > > > >>> <donal.lafferty@citrix.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> You get a month's grace.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Alternatively, I've a spare key for Windows
7 ultimate that
> > > > > > >>>> I can send you.  I get a few of them with my
MSDN license.
> > > > > > >>>> Do you need a download link for Win7 Ultimate?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> DL
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >>>>> From: Chiradeep Vittal
> > > > > > >>>>> Sent: 19 June 2013 9:00 PM
> > > > > > >>>>> To: Donal Lafferty
> > > > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Win7 License key?
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> What about off the intranet?
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>> Chiradeep
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> On Jun 19, 2013, at 12:51, "Donal Lafferty"
> > > > > > >>>>> <donal.lafferty@citrix.com>
> > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On company intranet, or connecting
to it?
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Use the volume license Win7.  It contacts
the KMS server
> > > > > > >>>>>> on the
> > > > > > >>>>> intranet to
> > > > > > >>>>> get its license.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> See
> > > > > > >>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff793434.aspx
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Ask IT services for the volume license
image.
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >>>>>>> From: Chiradeep Vittal
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Sent: 19 June 2013 8:48 PM
> > > > > > >>>>>>> To: #Cloud - Engineering
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Subject: Win7 License key?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Need to install Win7 VM (long term
use). Is there a
> > > > > > >>>>>>> license
> > > > > > >>>>> available?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Chiradeep
> > > > > > >
> 

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