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From Nux! <...@li.nux.ro>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Should we be releasing -beta releases?
Date Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:06:22 GMT
On 14.05.2013 15:41, Chip Childers wrote:
> As a way to get more user feedback on our major feature releases, what
> does everyone think about releasing one or two -beta releases for each
> major feature release?
> 
> This might fall in line with some of the stated concerns about our
> release schedule (see [1]).  I've stated a desire to be quicker about
> our releases (my vote was 4 months).  I've also been saying quite
> publicly that we should never release if we know about upgrade issues
> (that's the cost of having actual users of our project, which I'm more
> than willing for us to pay).
> 
> Perhaps -betaX releases would be helpful to get attention from the 
> users
> to test the release (including upgrade paths).  The stated assumption
> could be: -beta releases are not releases that can be upgraded *from*,
> but are intended to help support testing by end users that want to 
> check
> the upcoming release against their expected feature set and upgrade
> path.
> 
> I would see the first -beta-1 being released about 1 month after 
> feature
> freeze.  For example, for 4.2.0, it would be on 2013-06-30.  I would
> only do a -beta-2 (or later) beta release if required due to testing
> results.  I would also suggest that the -beta-* releases would *not*
> have any particular quality criteria (well...  perhaps minimal, like
> blocking on issues that fundamentally make the software unstable).
> 
> I'm not sure about my own proposal here, but I wanted to throw it out
> and see if any of you have feedback / thoughts.
> 
> -chip
> 
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/3ctdwor5hfbpa3vx

+1 for beta releases, I was actually thinking of building some RPMS 
from source, want to get a flavour of 4.2 features, but not sure if I 
can be bothered with that. If I had some nightlies or betas available on 
cloudstack.apt-get.eu I'd definitely give it a go.

Lucian

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