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From "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net>
Subject RE: [ACS41] Discuss CLOUDSTACK-2463 being resolved in 4.1 vs 4.2
Date Wed, 15 May 2013 19:48:54 GMT
I'd ask for this be to enabled in vmware/vsphere is possible. 
There are by far more vmware users in corporate/enteprise world than kvm and xen.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:26 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Anthony Xu; Manan Shah; Angeline Shen; Alena Prokharchyk
> Subject: Re: [ACS41] Discuss CLOUDSTACK-2463 being resolved in 4.1 vs 4.2
> 
> Adding relevant folks from previous discussions of this feature to the CC list.
> 
> One other note...  From what I can tell, the work intended for 4.2 to re-
> enable security groups within an advanced zone is limited to Xen and KVM.  I
> believe that Nicolas (the issue reporter) is using VMware.
> 
> We do have a note from Wei (below) highlighting his desire to see this
> feature as well (although, Wei, what HV are you using?).
> 
> Thoughts on what to do?
> 
> -chip
> 
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 09:20:06AM -0700, Alex Huang wrote:
> > I'm a very strong believer that CloudStack releases should always be
> upgradable from previous releases.  We can't strand our user base on a
> previous release.
> >
> > --Alex
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wei ZHOU [mailto:ustcweizhou@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:28 AM
> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [ACS41] Discuss CLOUDSTACK-2463 being resolved in 4.1
> > > vs 4.2
> > >
> > > Half of our platforms are on 2.2.14 (advanced zone with security groups).
> > > These platform work well. We are looking for a way to upgrade to 4.*
> > > for more functionalities, so that we do not need to take the
> > > difference of cloudstack version into account in development.
> > >
> > > As I know, the citrix guys are working on this. Jessica Wang said
> > > the feature will be merged into master branch soon.It looks the coding is
> almost done.
> > >
> > > I hope this feature could be included in 4.1, of course. However, we
> > > also need some days for testing and bug fix. It means cloudstack 4.1
> > > will delay for uncertain days (it is very bad, right?). It is a difficult choice.
> > >
> > > I do not know how many companies are using 2.2.14  (advanced zone
> > > with security groups) and eager to upgrade. I will join the dev and
> > > testing if needed.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/5/15 Chip Childers <chip.childers@sungard.com>
> > >
> > > > Sebastian re-opened CLOUDSTACK-2463 due to users wanting to
> > > > upgrade from 2.x to 4.1.  This relates to the security groups
> > > > feature being available when using VLANs in an advanced networking
> > > > zone.  This feature was apparently broken in the 3.x series, and
> > > > is not slated to be reintroduced until 4.2.
> > > >
> > > > This is a horrible situation, and one that we've now encountered
> > > > for a third time.
> > > >
> > > > IMO, we have 2 very specific options:
> > > >
> > > > 1) We pull that new feature into 4.1, and do the relevant testing.
> > > >
> > > > 2) We do not pull that feature into 4.1, and release as is with a
> > > > strong message in the release notes highlighting that we know that
> > > > 2.x to 4.1 will not support it (and state that those users
> > > > requiring the feature should wait for 4.2).
> > > >
> > > > At this point, I don't have a preference.  We probably need to
> > > > understand the effort for (1), as well as understand who would do
> > > > that work (dev AND testing).
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > -chip
> > > >
> >



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