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From Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Should we be releasing -beta releases?
Date Wed, 15 May 2013 07:49:53 GMT

On May 14, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Chip Childers <chip.childers@sungard.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:59:14AM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
>> Are you going to support upgrades from your Betas to release (and
>> betaN to betaN+1)?
>> If the answer is no, then there is no interest on my part. It's not
>> better than us producing nightly builds, or highlighting jenkins
>> builds.
> 
> Perhaps doing a better job of highlighting nightly builds at key moments
> is the right answer to the problem I was trying to solve (more user
> testing of upgrades)?

+1 on this, IMHO it's more of a documentation and delivery issue. If users knew where to find
the latest rpm and debs they would test early.

In the download section we could have a "nightly build" section

And by the way we should send this type of thread to users...

-sebastien

> 
> The beta idea comes with some overhead, and perhaps that overhead isn't
> worth the benefit (if there are other ways to achieve that goal).  And
> that's why I floated the idea...  to get reactions.
> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Chip Childers
>> <chip.childers@sungard.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Daan Hoogland wrote:
>>>> As a relative outsider;
>>>> 
>>>> any branch that is not released yet is a beta release. Why make it more
>>>> explicit. Wouldn't this add support burdon? Make a branch 'in beta' and
>>>> appoint a guard to make sure no new feartures but only fixes go in (kind
of
>>>> how you are working right now)
>>> 
>>> So we do that today.  However, a "release" as a -beta will get more user
>>> attention eariler in our release cycle (at least that's my theory).  We
>>> need that user attention to help us ensure that upgrades work.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Daan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013, at 09:41 AM, Chip Childers wrote:
>>>>>> As a way to get more user feedback on our major feature releases,
what
>>>>>> does everyone think about releasing one or two -beta releases for
each
>>>>>> major feature release?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes to beta releases. I know that users could test at any time, but we
>>>>> need explicit targets for users that say "now is a good time to test
>>>>> this and give feedback."
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> jzb
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
>>>>> jzb@zonker.net
>>>>> Twitter: @jzb
>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>>> 
>> 


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