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[80.14.107.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id er1sm31642325wib.5.2013.04.04.07.59.34 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: [DOCS] More OSS writers needed From: Sebastien Goasguen In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:59:34 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15BD1D10-6862-46D1-9401-03590B5ECE05@gmail.com> References: <20130404140727.GK414@USLT-205755.sungardas.corp> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Apr 4, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath = wrote: > My two cents >=20 > We should go to conferences specifically meant for writers, and market = CloudStack. That way, we could attract good freelancers. >=20 > The other way is to reach out to students and offer internship to = those who are interested in writing. ..In the due course, both parties = are mutually benefited: Students get good industry exposure on cutting = edge technology, whereas we might get good writers to work on CloudStack = docs.. >=20 > -Radhika >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:37 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DOCS] More OSS writers needed >=20 > On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 07:31:19PM -0700, Jessica Tomechak wrote: >> In this morning's IRC chat, it was very properly pointed out that=20 >> CloudStack could use more doc writers. >>=20 >> We have a backlog of suggestions for large, new documentation=20 >> projects. We collected these suggestions under the Doc Writers wiki=20= >> page. I have just opened Jira tickets for each of the items, to make=20= >> them more visible and easier to grab for whatever new OSS writers are = interested! >>=20 >> Please feel free to add more items, or vote up/down on any of the=20 >> suggested new documents, or assign a ticket to yourself and write. >>=20 >> = https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Documentation+S >> uggestion+Box >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Jessica T. >=20 > This is great... but do you (others) have any ideas about how we can = attract new tech writers to the project? I think that we obviously have > *lots* of work to do, which frankly can even go into helping to curate = the wiki, etc... My personal concern is getting enough volunteers to = work on all of this! If I were a dictator I would force every new feature to land in the = source code *with* documentation. No documentation, no commit. Of course folks would hate me for it :) and the project might die. = However I read that Django tries to do this. CloudStack is a complex software and the best people to write the docs = are really the folks who write the features.=20 In addition, lots of features require advanced setup that a lot of tech = writers won't have at their disposal. Maybe couple days before the next CloudStack conference we can have a = face to face WriteaThon... -Sebastien