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From Sheng Yang <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Revert back to old mailing list mechanism, which would add "Reply-To: mailing list" to every mail it send out
Date Fri, 08 Feb 2013 02:46:26 GMT
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Chip Childers <> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 04:00:46PM -0800, Sheng Yang wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'd like to call for a vote for reverting back to the old mailing list
>> mechanism, which would add "Reply-To: mailing list" to every mail it
>> send out.
> +1 (binding)
> Point of order question:
> I'd like to ask exactly which type of vote we believe we are holding
> here.  Not to be the "rules guy", but isn't this a technical decision?
> If so, the bylaws we agreed to were that technical decisions are
> only put to a formal vote in circumstances where discussion was unable
> to achieve consensus.  I guess that's what you believe has happened.

Theoretically I don't think it's a technical decision. It's related to
mailing list itself, and way people use it, not CloudStack. And it
would involve the community as whole.

Do you agree?

> That being said, we've basically started a vote that you could immediate
> close down.  You've cast a -1 vote, and technical decisions are formally
> voted on using the lazy consensus (at least 3 +1 binding votes, and no
> binding -1 votes). Based on that, and the wording of this vote, the vote
> itself is procedurally meaningless.  It's more useful as a continuation
> of the conversation thread.
> The more appropriate vote would be to assume that the questions were
> being raised, based on a technical change to the mailing list.  Effectively,
> the state that we were in is the baseline (prior to the change), and several
> people have expressed opinions that are against that original technical decision.
> -chip

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