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From Joe Brockmeier <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a TLP?
Date Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:59:29 GMT
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Marcus Sorensen wrote:
> My main concerns revolve around those rough edges you mention. There
> still seems to be a lot of confusion around the time-based release. We
> got a lot of "wait, I can't include this" emails, I've seen people
> commit directly to the 4.0 branch post-release rather than the manager
> pulling in (perhaps they got buy-off from the release manager, I don't
> know, but still it raised alarm bells for me to see the logs). There
> was the whole javelin thing. Confusion around voting on the mailing
> lists, etc.

We're not perfect - but that's not the point of incubation, really. At
this point, at least from my POV, we're "policing" ourselves well and
following Apache policies. 

If we waited until we had every process sorted out and no confusion...
well, that'd be a very long time. And that's not a bad thing. 
> I tend to agree with you Chip, that the incubation process itself may
> not teach us anything further about these things, and they're just
> things we need to iron out over time.


Graduating isn't saying "we're perfect now" just that we've reached a
stage where we can handle issues within the project and/or know when to
reach out for help from other parts of the Apache project - like @legal,
@trademarks, etc. 


Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb

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