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From "Musayev, Ilya" <imusa...@webmd.net>
Subject RE: DevCloud Question
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:19:29 GMT
Sebastien,

Any reason why you would not post it under YouTube? we get more visibility that way :)

Thanks for putting this together
-ilya

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:45 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: DevCloud Question

Hey Sebastien,

Awesome video!  It was really good to see all of that.

Thanks!
Mike


On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Mike Tutkowski < mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Sebastien! I can check that out today.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <runseb@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Mike, this may help a bit:
>>
>> http://vimeo.com/54610161
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Mike Tutkowski 
>> <mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > OK, cool...I can start with DevCloud, but at some point I'd like to
>> create
>> > my own from scratch just to understand the details better.  For the 
>> > time being, though, I do want to get up and running, use SolidFire 
>> > storage, etc., so using DevCloud is the way to go.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Marcus Sorensen 
>> ><shadowsor@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> The only thing that works in virtualbox for running VMs is a Xen
>> kernel.
>> >> You can roll your own distribution with a Xen kernel, sure, but
>> devcloud is
>> >> preconfigured and is documented on how to set up.  That shouldn't 
>> >> stop
>> you
>> >> from doing your own, though!
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Mike Tutkowski < 
>> >> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> No...it is network accessible...I was just thinking I would not 
>> >>> use
>> NFS.
>> >>> If I use SolidFire's storage, run the management server on my 
>> >>> host OS, then I guess all that leaves for DevCloud to do is 
>> >>> provide a
>> hypervisor
>> >> to
>> >>> run VMs...is that true?  If that's the case, I could just run my 
>> >>> own hypervisor in a different VirtualBox VM.  That's all I was thinking.
>>  Do
>> >>> you think that's not a good way to go?  Just curious.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Marcus Sorensen 
>> >>> <shadowsor@gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Why not? Is solid fire storage not network accessible?
>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2013 8:11 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
>> >> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> OK, guys...thanks for the info!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In my case, I will need to make use of SolidFire's storage,
so 
>> >>>>> using DevCloud for storage is probably not going to be applicable
for me.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I could use DevCloud to run VMs...I see now.  I also have 
>> >>>>> another VM
>> >>> I've
>> >>>>> been using that has XenServer installed where I could run my
VMs.
>> >> This
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>> making more sense to me now.  I just wasn't really confident
I
>> >>> understood
>> >>>>> what DevCloud provided.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks again
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen <
>> >> shadowsor@gmail.com
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Devcloud is where your VMS run. So in cloudstack when you
add
>> >> hosts,
>> >>> it
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>>> your host. In production you generally would have 3 or so
>> >> management
>> >>>>>> servers controlling tens or hundreds of hosts that run VMS.
So 
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>> mac
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>>> your management server and devcloud is what it controls.
>> >>>>>> On Jan 22, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
>> >>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sorry about what might be silly questions :) but if
I develop 
>> >>>>>>> my
>> >>> code
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>>>> Mac OS X, I'm not really sure what DevCloud would do
for me?
>> >> Could
>> >>>> you
>> >>>>>>> explain that part to me?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Tutkowski <

>> >>>>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ah, didn't realize that DevCloud2 was Debian based.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I'm developing on Max OS X.  So, it sounds like
for a 
>> >>>>>>>> developer
>> >>> in
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>> situation, it is best for me to download the source
code to 
>> >>>>>>>> my
>> >>> Mac,
>> >>>>>> code,
>> >>>>>>>> build, run, test, etc. on Mac OS X?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Fang Wang <
>> >> fang.wang@citrix.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> IT depends on what OS X you have. IF you have
Ubuntu, then
>> >>> either
>> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud or your environment is the same.
>> >>>>>>>>> You may directly use your Ubuntu.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> But if OS X is windows, for some hypervisor,
you can't
>> >> directly
>> >>>>> deploy
>> >>>>>>> MS
>> >>>>>>>>> on Windows.
>> >>>>>>>>> Then DevCloud provides a way to bypass this
Windows
>> >> limitation.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -Fang
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>>> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com]
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:43 PM
>> >>>>>>>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: DevCloud Question
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I'm curious to learn a bit about DevCloud. 
I don't 
>> >>>>>>>>> currently
>> >>>>>> understand
>> >>>>>>>>> how it relates from a development-workflow perspective.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> My host OS is OS X.  I have VirtualBox, Eclipse,
Git, 
>> >>>>>>>>> Maven,
>> >>> etc.
>> >>>>>>>>> installed in OS X.  I am running the DevCloud
appliance via
>> >>>>>> VirtualBox.
>> >>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> can bring up the CloudStack GUI and log in this
way and 
>> >>>>>>>>> that's
>> >>>> easy
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> great to be able to do.  What I don't really
understand is 
>> >>>>>>>>> how
>> >>> our
>> >>>>>>>>> development workflow should be using DevCloud.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Do I develop code in Eclipse on OS X and port
the artifacts
>> >> over
>> >>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud to update it?  Am I supposed to develop
directly 
>> >>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>> Ubuntu
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud (and, as such, should not use Eclipse).
 Should I
>> >> just
>> >>>>> ignore
>> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud completely and develop everything on
OS X?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I'm a little lost here.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!!
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>> >>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> >>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>> >>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>> >>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>> >>>>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> >>>>>>>>> *(tm)*
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>> >>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> >>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>> >>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>> >>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the cloud<
>> >>>>>>> http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> >>>>>>>> *(tm)*
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>> >>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> >>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>> >>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>> >>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>> >>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> >>>>>>> *(tm)*
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>> >>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> >>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>> >>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>> >>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>> >>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> >>>>> *(tm)*
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>> >>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> >>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>> >>> o: 303.746.7302
>> >>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>> >>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> >>> *(tm)*
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Mike Tutkowski*
>> > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> > e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>> > o: 303.746.7302
>> > Advancing the way the world uses the 
>> > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> > *(tm)*
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Mike Tutkowski*
> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> o: 303.746.7302
> Advancing the way the world uses the 
> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> *(tm)*
>



--
*Mike Tutkowski*
*Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
o: 303.746.7302
Advancing the way the world uses the
cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
*(tm)*


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