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From Mike Tutkowski <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com>
Subject Re: DevCloud Question
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:58:48 GMT
Thanks, Sebastien! I can check that out today.


On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <runseb@gmail.com>wrote:

> Mike, this may help a bit:
>
> http://vimeo.com/54610161
>
> On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Mike Tutkowski <mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
> wrote:
>
> > OK, cool...I can start with DevCloud, but at some point I'd like to
> create
> > my own from scratch just to understand the details better.  For the time
> > being, though, I do want to get up and running, use SolidFire storage,
> > etc., so using DevCloud is the way to go.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> The only thing that works in virtualbox for running VMs is a Xen kernel.
> >> You can roll your own distribution with a Xen kernel, sure, but
> devcloud is
> >> preconfigured and is documented on how to set up.  That shouldn't stop
> you
> >> from doing your own, though!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
> >> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> No...it is network accessible...I was just thinking I would not use
> NFS.
> >>> If I use SolidFire's storage, run the management server on my host OS,
> >>> then I guess all that leaves for DevCloud to do is provide a hypervisor
> >> to
> >>> run VMs...is that true?  If that's the case, I could just run my own
> >>> hypervisor in a different VirtualBox VM.  That's all I was thinking.
>  Do
> >>> you think that's not a good way to go?  Just curious.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Why not? Is solid fire storage not network accessible?
> >>>> On Jan 22, 2013 8:11 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
> >> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> OK, guys...thanks for the info!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In my case, I will need to make use of SolidFire's storage, so using
> >>>>> DevCloud for storage is probably not going to be applicable for
me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could use DevCloud to run VMs...I see now.  I also have another
VM
> >>> I've
> >>>>> been using that has XenServer installed where I could run my VMs.
> >> This
> >>>> is
> >>>>> making more sense to me now.  I just wasn't really confident I
> >>> understood
> >>>>> what DevCloud provided.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks again
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen <
> >> shadowsor@gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Devcloud is where your VMS run. So in cloudstack when you add
> >> hosts,
> >>> it
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> your host. In production you generally would have 3 or so
> >> management
> >>>>>> servers controlling tens or hundreds of hosts that run VMS.
So the
> >>> mac
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> your management server and devcloud is what it controls.
> >>>>>> On Jan 22, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
> >>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sorry about what might be silly questions :) but if I develop
my
> >>> code
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>> Mac OS X, I'm not really sure what DevCloud would do for
me?
> >> Could
> >>>> you
> >>>>>>> explain that part to me?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
> >>>>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ah, didn't realize that DevCloud2 was Debian based.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm developing on Max OS X.  So, it sounds like for
a developer
> >>> in
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> situation, it is best for me to download the source
code to my
> >>> Mac,
> >>>>>> code,
> >>>>>>>> build, run, test, etc. on Mac OS X?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Fang Wang <
> >> fang.wang@citrix.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> IT depends on what OS X you have. IF you have Ubuntu,
then
> >>> either
> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud or your environment is the same.
> >>>>>>>>> You may directly use your Ubuntu.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But if OS X is windows, for some hypervisor, you
can't
> >> directly
> >>>>> deploy
> >>>>>>> MS
> >>>>>>>>> on Windows.
> >>>>>>>>> Then DevCloud provides a way to bypass this Windows
> >> limitation.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Fang
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com]
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:43 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: DevCloud Question
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm curious to learn a bit about DevCloud.  I don't
currently
> >>>>>> understand
> >>>>>>>>> how it relates from a development-workflow perspective.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My host OS is OS X.  I have VirtualBox, Eclipse,
Git, Maven,
> >>> etc.
> >>>>>>>>> installed in OS X.  I am running the DevCloud appliance
via
> >>>>>> VirtualBox.
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> can bring up the CloudStack GUI and log in this
way and that's
> >>>> easy
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> great to be able to do.  What I don't really understand
is how
> >>> our
> >>>>>>>>> development workflow should be using DevCloud.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Do I develop code in Eclipse on OS X and port the
artifacts
> >> over
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud to update it?  Am I supposed to develop
directly on
> >>>> Ubuntu
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud (and, as such, should not use Eclipse).
 Should I
> >> just
> >>>>> ignore
> >>>>>>>>> DevCloud completely and develop everything on OS
X?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm a little lost here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
> >>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> >>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> >>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
> >>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the
> >>>>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> >>>>>>>>> *(tm)*
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
> >>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> >>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> >>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
> >>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the cloud<
> >>>>>>> http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> >>>>>>>> *™*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
> >>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> >>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> >>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
> >>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the
> >>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> >>>>>>> *™*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
> >>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> >>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> >>>>> o: 303.746.7302
> >>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the
> >>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> >>>>> *™*
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *Mike Tutkowski*
> >>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> >>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> >>> o: 303.746.7302
> >>> Advancing the way the world uses the
> >>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> >>> *™*
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Mike Tutkowski*
> > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> > e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> > o: 303.746.7302
> > Advancing the way the world uses the
> > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> > *™*
>
>


-- 
*Mike Tutkowski*
*Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
o: 303.746.7302
Advancing the way the world uses the
cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
*™*

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