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From Mike Tutkowski <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com>
Subject Re: DevCloud Question
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:34:26 GMT
OK, cool...I can start with DevCloud, but at some point I'd like to create
my own from scratch just to understand the details better.  For the time
being, though, I do want to get up and running, use SolidFire storage,
etc., so using DevCloud is the way to go.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com>wrote:

> The only thing that works in virtualbox for running VMs is a Xen kernel.
> You can roll your own distribution with a Xen kernel, sure, but devcloud is
> preconfigured and is documented on how to set up.  That shouldn't stop you
> from doing your own, though!
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
>
> > No...it is network accessible...I was just thinking I would not use NFS.
> >  If I use SolidFire's storage, run the management server on my host OS,
> > then I guess all that leaves for DevCloud to do is provide a hypervisor
> to
> > run VMs...is that true?  If that's the case, I could just run my own
> > hypervisor in a different VirtualBox VM.  That's all I was thinking.  Do
> > you think that's not a good way to go?  Just curious.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Why not? Is solid fire storage not network accessible?
> > > On Jan 22, 2013 8:11 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, guys...thanks for the info!
> > > >
> > > > In my case, I will need to make use of SolidFire's storage, so using
> > > > DevCloud for storage is probably not going to be applicable for me.
> > > >
> > > > I could use DevCloud to run VMs...I see now.  I also have another VM
> > I've
> > > > been using that has XenServer installed where I could run my VMs.
>  This
> > > is
> > > > making more sense to me now.  I just wasn't really confident I
> > understood
> > > > what DevCloud provided.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen <
> shadowsor@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Devcloud is where your VMS run. So in cloudstack when you add
> hosts,
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > your host. In production you generally would have 3 or so
> management
> > > > > servers controlling tens or hundreds of hosts that run VMS. So the
> > mac
> > > is
> > > > > your management server and devcloud is what it controls.
> > > > > On Jan 22, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
> > > mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry about what might be silly questions :) but if I develop
my
> > code
> > > > on
> > > > > > Mac OS X, I'm not really sure what DevCloud would do for me?
> Could
> > > you
> > > > > > explain that part to me?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
> > > > > > mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ah, didn't realize that DevCloud2 was Debian based.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm developing on Max OS X.  So, it sounds like for a developer
> > in
> > > > that
> > > > > > > situation, it is best for me to download the source code
to my
> > Mac,
> > > > > code,
> > > > > > > build, run, test, etc. on Mac OS X?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Fang Wang <
> fang.wang@citrix.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> IT depends on what OS X you have. IF you have Ubuntu,
then
> > either
> > > > > > >> DevCloud or your environment is the same.
> > > > > > >> You may directly use your Ubuntu.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> But if OS X is windows, for some hypervisor, you can't
> directly
> > > > deploy
> > > > > > MS
> > > > > > >> on Windows.
> > > > > > >> Then DevCloud provides a way to bypass this Windows
> limitation.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -Fang
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com]
> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:43 PM
> > > > > > >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >> Subject: DevCloud Question
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hi everyone,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I'm curious to learn a bit about DevCloud.  I don't
currently
> > > > > understand
> > > > > > >> how it relates from a development-workflow perspective.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> My host OS is OS X.  I have VirtualBox, Eclipse, Git,
Maven,
> > etc.
> > > > > > >> installed in OS X.  I am running the DevCloud appliance
via
> > > > > VirtualBox.
> > > > > >  I
> > > > > > >> can bring up the CloudStack GUI and log in this way
and that's
> > > easy
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> great to be able to do.  What I don't really understand
is how
> > our
> > > > > > >> development workflow should be using DevCloud.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Do I develop code in Eclipse on OS X and port the artifacts
> over
> > > to
> > > > > > >> DevCloud to update it?  Am I supposed to develop directly
on
> > > Ubuntu
> > > > in
> > > > > > >> DevCloud (and, as such, should not use Eclipse).  Should
I
> just
> > > > ignore
> > > > > > >> DevCloud completely and develop everything on OS X?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I'm a little lost here.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks!!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> *Mike Tutkowski*
> > > > > > >> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> > > > > > >> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> > > > > > >> o: 303.746.7302
> > > > > > >> Advancing the way the world uses the
> > > > > > >> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> > > > > > >> *(tm)*
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > *Mike Tutkowski*
> > > > > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> > > > > > > e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> > > > > > > o: 303.746.7302
> > > > > > > Advancing the way the world uses the cloud<
> > > > > > http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> > > > > > > *™*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *Mike Tutkowski*
> > > > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> > > > > > e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> > > > > > o: 303.746.7302
> > > > > > Advancing the way the world uses the
> > > > > > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> > > > > > *™*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *Mike Tutkowski*
> > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> > > > e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> > > > o: 303.746.7302
> > > > Advancing the way the world uses the
> > > > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> > > > *™*
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Mike Tutkowski*
> > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> > e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> > o: 303.746.7302
> > Advancing the way the world uses the
> > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> > *™*
> >
>



-- 
*Mike Tutkowski*
*Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
o: 303.746.7302
Advancing the way the world uses the
cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
*™*

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