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From Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: DevCloud Question
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:19:06 GMT
Mike, this may help a bit:

http://vimeo.com/54610161

On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Mike Tutkowski <mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:

> OK, cool...I can start with DevCloud, but at some point I'd like to create
> my own from scratch just to understand the details better.  For the time
> being, though, I do want to get up and running, use SolidFire storage,
> etc., so using DevCloud is the way to go.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> The only thing that works in virtualbox for running VMs is a Xen kernel.
>> You can roll your own distribution with a Xen kernel, sure, but devcloud is
>> preconfigured and is documented on how to set up.  That shouldn't stop you
>> from doing your own, though!
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> No...it is network accessible...I was just thinking I would not use NFS.
>>> If I use SolidFire's storage, run the management server on my host OS,
>>> then I guess all that leaves for DevCloud to do is provide a hypervisor
>> to
>>> run VMs...is that true?  If that's the case, I could just run my own
>>> hypervisor in a different VirtualBox VM.  That's all I was thinking.  Do
>>> you think that's not a good way to go?  Just curious.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadowsor@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Why not? Is solid fire storage not network accessible?
>>>> On Jan 22, 2013 8:11 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, guys...thanks for the info!
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my case, I will need to make use of SolidFire's storage, so using
>>>>> DevCloud for storage is probably not going to be applicable for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I could use DevCloud to run VMs...I see now.  I also have another VM
>>> I've
>>>>> been using that has XenServer installed where I could run my VMs.
>> This
>>>> is
>>>>> making more sense to me now.  I just wasn't really confident I
>>> understood
>>>>> what DevCloud provided.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen <
>> shadowsor@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Devcloud is where your VMS run. So in cloudstack when you add
>> hosts,
>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>>> your host. In production you generally would have 3 or so
>> management
>>>>>> servers controlling tens or hundreds of hosts that run VMS. So the
>>> mac
>>>> is
>>>>>> your management server and devcloud is what it controls.
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry about what might be silly questions :) but if I develop
my
>>> code
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> Mac OS X, I'm not really sure what DevCloud would do for me?
>> Could
>>>> you
>>>>>>> explain that part to me?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
>>>>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ah, didn't realize that DevCloud2 was Debian based.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm developing on Max OS X.  So, it sounds like for a developer
>>> in
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> situation, it is best for me to download the source code
to my
>>> Mac,
>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>>> build, run, test, etc. on Mac OS X?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Fang Wang <
>> fang.wang@citrix.com
>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> IT depends on what OS X you have. IF you have Ubuntu,
then
>>> either
>>>>>>>>> DevCloud or your environment is the same.
>>>>>>>>> You may directly use your Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But if OS X is windows, for some hypervisor, you can't
>> directly
>>>>> deploy
>>>>>>> MS
>>>>>>>>> on Windows.
>>>>>>>>> Then DevCloud provides a way to bypass this Windows
>> limitation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Fang
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:43 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: DevCloud Question
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm curious to learn a bit about DevCloud.  I don't currently
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>> how it relates from a development-workflow perspective.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My host OS is OS X.  I have VirtualBox, Eclipse, Git,
Maven,
>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>> installed in OS X.  I am running the DevCloud appliance
via
>>>>>> VirtualBox.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> can bring up the CloudStack GUI and log in this way and
that's
>>>> easy
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> great to be able to do.  What I don't really understand
is how
>>> our
>>>>>>>>> development workflow should be using DevCloud.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Do I develop code in Eclipse on OS X and port the artifacts
>> over
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> DevCloud to update it?  Am I supposed to develop directly
on
>>>> Ubuntu
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> DevCloud (and, as such, should not use Eclipse).  Should
I
>> just
>>>>> ignore
>>>>>>>>> DevCloud completely and develop everything on OS X?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm a little lost here.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the
>>>>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>>>>> *(tm)*
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the cloud<
>>>>>>> http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>>>> *™*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the
>>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>>> *™*
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the
>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>> *™*
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>> Advancing the way the world uses the
>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>> *™*
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Mike Tutkowski*
> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> o: 303.746.7302
> Advancing the way the world uses the
> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> *™*


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