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From Sebastien Goasguen <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] "Arming" cloudstack supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs....
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:55:27 GMT

On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Giles Sirett <> wrote:

> Animesh
> This is  a topic that we discuss a lot with customers. We have many customers who have
evaluated both OS and CS and then choose CS.
> The customers that we work with like CS because it is a "product" that has many real
world deployments, as opposed to OS, which is (IMO) a "code project"  only right now
> The way I see it at the moment is it is wholly dependant on use-case:
> If you are a major vendor (with a massive budget)  who wants to create a propriety stack
of your own (abstracted from the underlying core code), then OS does offer a lot.  But it
requires a lot of work to get it in a usable state. Great if you want to make it your own
thing, but not great if you have the usual, real world, time and cost constraints.
> However, many organisations (both public cloud providers such as telcos and private cloud
operators) want something that they can lift "out of the box" quickly and easily. That’s
where CS wins hands down at the moment.
> One of the most interesting anecdotes that I have is a media company  over here in UK.
One of their lead architects is a OS guru (he wrote the "Openstack cookbook" and now works
for Rackspace!) and tried for months and months to build them a small production cloud (including
buying professional services to help). They eventually gave up, and we built them a CS cloud
in a matter of days.
> We've got some case-studies coming out in the next few weeks which we'd be happy to share
with the community

Giles, Yes please. We need more case studies. In general, we need users of CS to more vocal
about how they are using it.

I am happy to help anyone who wants to write  a case study and publish it openly.


> Kind Regards
> Giles
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi []
> Sent: 23 January 2013 19:11
> To:
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] "Arming" cloudstack supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs....
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Huang []
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:54 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] "Arming" cloudstack supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs....
>> Hi All,
>> I like to discuss with the community how we can best "arm" cloudstack
>> supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs.  This is due to Ilya's email
>> thread.  I think his question and others like it will be repeated
>> often.  The community suggested an objective process to evaluate the
>> various stacks: bakeoffs, which I'm supportive of.  But it make sense that people
don't just enter into
>> these bake-offs blind.   We should provide them with the information,
>> experience and process to properly conduct cloudstack in these bakeoffs.
>> However, I'm not sure what's the right combination to provide.  So I
>> like to start this topic to see what the community thinks.
>> I asked this during cloudstack-meeting and Chip suggested Dave's runbook.
>> That's a good starting point.  Is there any other suggestions?
>> There's a top level section in our wiki that makes sense for this.
>> After we come up with the right combination, we can update the wiki
>> and continue to update the wiki with more information.
>> Thanks.
>> --Alex
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experience and reasoning in choosing cloudstack publically?
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