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From Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: DevCloud Question
Date Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:30:06 GMT

On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:19 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusayev@webmd.net> wrote:

> Sebastien,
> 
> Any reason why you would not post it under YouTube? we get more visibility that way :)
> 

Not really. I was trying to do an HD one, and vimeo has nice support for it (even though this
one is not in HD).
I sometimes ran into issues on youtube if your video is too long, but I suppose I should revisit
that, it's probably due to my ignorance :)

-sebastien

> Thanks for putting this together
> -ilya
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:45 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: DevCloud Question
> 
> Hey Sebastien,
> 
> Awesome video!  It was really good to see all of that.
> 
> Thanks!
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Mike Tutkowski < mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Sebastien! I can check that out today.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <runseb@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Mike, this may help a bit:
>>> 
>>> http://vimeo.com/54610161
>>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Mike Tutkowski 
>>> <mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> OK, cool...I can start with DevCloud, but at some point I'd like to
>>> create
>>>> my own from scratch just to understand the details better.  For the 
>>>> time being, though, I do want to get up and running, use SolidFire 
>>>> storage, etc., so using DevCloud is the way to go.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Marcus Sorensen 
>>>> <shadowsor@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The only thing that works in virtualbox for running VMs is a Xen
>>> kernel.
>>>>> You can roll your own distribution with a Xen kernel, sure, but
>>> devcloud is
>>>>> preconfigured and is documented on how to set up.  That shouldn't 
>>>>> stop
>>> you
>>>>> from doing your own, though!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Mike Tutkowski < 
>>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> No...it is network accessible...I was just thinking I would not 
>>>>>> use
>>> NFS.
>>>>>> If I use SolidFire's storage, run the management server on my 
>>>>>> host OS, then I guess all that leaves for DevCloud to do is 
>>>>>> provide a
>>> hypervisor
>>>>> to
>>>>>> run VMs...is that true?  If that's the case, I could just run my

>>>>>> own hypervisor in a different VirtualBox VM.  That's all I was thinking.
>>> Do
>>>>>> you think that's not a good way to go?  Just curious.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Marcus Sorensen 
>>>>>> <shadowsor@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why not? Is solid fire storage not network accessible?
>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2013 8:11 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
>>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK, guys...thanks for the info!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In my case, I will need to make use of SolidFire's storage,
so 
>>>>>>>> using DevCloud for storage is probably not going to be applicable
for me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I could use DevCloud to run VMs...I see now.  I also have

>>>>>>>> another VM
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>> been using that has XenServer installed where I could run
my VMs.
>>>>> This
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> making more sense to me now.  I just wasn't really confident
I
>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>> what DevCloud provided.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Marcus Sorensen <
>>>>> shadowsor@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Devcloud is where your VMS run. So in cloudstack when
you add
>>>>> hosts,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> your host. In production you generally would have 3 or
so
>>>>> management
>>>>>>>>> servers controlling tens or hundreds of hosts that run
VMS. So 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mac
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> your management server and devcloud is what it controls.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <
>>>>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry about what might be silly questions :) but
if I develop 
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Mac OS X, I'm not really sure what DevCloud would
do for me?
>>>>> Could
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> explain that part to me?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Mike Tutkowski <

>>>>>>>>>> mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, didn't realize that DevCloud2 was Debian
based.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm developing on Max OS X.  So, it sounds like
for a 
>>>>>>>>>>> developer
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> situation, it is best for me to download the
source code to 
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>> Mac,
>>>>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>>>>>> build, run, test, etc. on Mac OS X?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Fang Wang <
>>>>> fang.wang@citrix.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> IT depends on what OS X you have. IF you
have Ubuntu, then
>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>> DevCloud or your environment is the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You may directly use your Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But if OS X is windows, for some hypervisor,
you can't
>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>> deploy
>>>>>>>>>> MS
>>>>>>>>>>>> on Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then DevCloud provides a way to bypass this
Windows
>>>>> limitation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Fang
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: DevCloud Question
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious to learn a bit about DevCloud.
 I don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>> how it relates from a development-workflow
perspective.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> My host OS is OS X.  I have VirtualBox, Eclipse,
Git, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed in OS X.  I am running the DevCloud
appliance via
>>>>>>>>> VirtualBox.
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can bring up the CloudStack GUI and log in
this way and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> great to be able to do.  What I don't really
understand is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>> development workflow should be using DevCloud.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I develop code in Eclipse on OS X and
port the artifacts
>>>>> over
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> DevCloud to update it?  Am I supposed to
develop directly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> DevCloud (and, as such, should not use Eclipse).
 Should I
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> ignore
>>>>>>>>>>>> DevCloud completely and develop everything
on OS X?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a little lost here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *(tm)*
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the cloud<
>>>>>>>>>> http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>>>>>>> *(tm)*
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>>>>>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>>>>>> *(tm)*
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>>>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>>>> *(tm)*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>>>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>>>> *(tm)*
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>>>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>>>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>>>> o: 303.746.7302
>>>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>>>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>>>> *(tm)*
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> *Mike Tutkowski*
>> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
>> o: 303.746.7302
>> Advancing the way the world uses the 
>> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> *(tm)*
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> *Mike Tutkowski*
> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> e: mike.tutkowski@solidfire.com
> o: 303.746.7302
> Advancing the way the world uses the
> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> *(tm)*
> 


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