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From Likitha Shetty <likitha.she...@citrix.com>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
Date Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:38:28 GMT
Created the first draft of the Functional spec - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/FS+-+Persistent+Networks.
Will keep updating it based on the feedback.

Thank you,
Likitha

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.shah@citrix.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:26 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
> 
> Chiradeep, Likitha,
> 
> My take is that we need to support both kinds of networks (persistent as well as
> non-persistent). Also, I don't think we can have this as a zone-wide behavior
> because not all networks in a zone would need to be persistent.
> 
> For example, if you are deploying a multi-tier application, you might only want
> the DB tier to be persistent.
> 
> Regards,
> Manan Shah
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/3/13 11:31 PM, "Ram Ganesh" <Ram.Ganesh@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> >Does it make sense to introduce the flag(persistent) as part of
> >NetworkOffering?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >RamG
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Likitha Shetty [mailto:likitha.shetty@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: 03 January 2013 18:05
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
> >>
> >> Please find my answers and queries inline.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Likitha
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:Chiradeep.Vittal@citrix.com]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:03 PM
> >> > To: CloudStack DeveloperList
> >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
> >> >
> >> > So:
> >> > 1. There needs to be both kinds of networks available (persistent
> >> > as
> >> well as non-
> >> > persistent) in the same zone?
> >> Yes
> >>
> >> > From an end-user perspective this is going to be confusing since
> >> > she
> >> has not
> >> > been exposed to this internal state before (and generally the end-
> >> user is not
> >> > aware of the internal state of the infrastructure).
> >> +1. Say we have a new API 'ProvisionNetwork' to provision a network
> >> that has been created by the user. Since the user is not aware of the
> >> internal state of a network it would be confusing for the user to
> >> understand the difference b/w the 2 API's, CreateNetwork and
> >> ProvisionNetwork.
> >>
> >> > Is it OK to make this behavior
> >> > zone-wide, I.e., on every guest network?
> >> But this would mean having all networks (in the zone which has this
> >> behavior enabled) in an implemented state, even if a network has no
> >> physical device or VM deployed in it. This is changing the default CS
> >> behavior of not having resources allocated to a network if the
> >> network doesn't require it. Is that acceptable ?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 12/31/12 10:19 AM, "Manan Shah" <manan.shah@citrix.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Thanks Likitha for picking up this requirement. You have correctly
> >> > >interpreted the requirements.
> >> > >
> >> > >Regards,
> >> > >Manan Shah
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >On 12/31/12 2:52 AM, "Likitha Shetty" <likitha.shetty@citrix.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>Hi,
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I would like to work on the proposed feature.
> >> > >>Restating the requirement. Currently in CloudStack when a user
> >> creates
> >> > >>a network, a db entry for that network is made, a VLAN ID is
> >> assigned
> >> > >>and the network is created only when the first VM on that network
> >> is
> >> > created.
> >> > >>With this feature CloudStack should allow users to provision the
> >> > >>created network i.e. assign a VLAN ID and implement the network
> >> > >>without having to deploy VM's on that network.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Comments/Suggestions on the requirement ?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Thank you,
> >> > >>Likitha
> >> > >>
> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
> >> > >>From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.shah@citrix.com]
> >> > >>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:01 AM
> >> > >>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> > >>Subject: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Hi,
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I would like to propose a new feature for persistent networks
> >> without
> >> > >>running VMs. I have created a JIRA ticket and provided the
> >> > >>requirements at the following location.  Please provide feedback
> >> > >>on
> >> the
> >> > requirements.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>JIRA Ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-706
> >> > >>Requirements:
> >> >
> >> >>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Persistent+N
> >> >>et
> >> w
> >> > >>ork
> >> > >>s
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Regards,
> >> > >>Manan Shah
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >


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