Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6F15E32A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:39:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55572 invoked by uid 500); 14 Dec 2012 18:39:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55481 invoked by uid 500); 14 Dec 2012 18:39:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55473 invoked by uid 99); 14 Dec 2012 18:39:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:39:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of Alex.Huang@citrix.com designates 66.165.176.63 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.165.176.63] (HELO SMTP02.CITRIX.COM) (66.165.176.63) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:39:53 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,282,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="721587" Received: from sjcpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.75]) by FTLPIPO02.CITRIX.COM with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 14 Dec 2012 18:39:31 +0000 Received: from SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.216.4.72]) by SJCPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.216.14.75]) with mapi; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:39:31 -0800 From: Alex Huang To: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:39:34 -0800 Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] new workflow for new features.... Thread-Topic: [DISCUSS] new workflow for new features.... Thread-Index: Ac3aIO13IXG3R0QCSx+STiYUERV7+QAB3w7g Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org >=20 > So what does this mean for a user requesting a feature or enhancement in > Jira? >=20 > User $foo may want CloudStack to provision coffee via IPMI, but they > may also not have the ability to write that feature, but want to ask > for it. Do they also need to bring it to the list? It seems very > developer-centric, which isn't necessarily bad, but don't want to make > users feel like their is a huge barrier to contributing to a feature > discussion. >=20 Don't assume the person performing the DISCUSS part of the work is the same= person as the one performing the PROPOSE part of the work. They can be bu= t they don't need to be. The end user can definitely conduct the DISCUSS p= art of the issue. This is beneficial in several ways. For the end user: - Like I said in an earlier email can setup their own filters and check on = the issues they are interested in. -They can also create the issue and lead the DISCUSS portion of the feature= creation. - Users can vote on the importance of a feature and that vote doesn't get l= ost because a user doesn't participate on -dev or just didn't see it on -de= v. For the release manager: - A release manager should look through the list and just ask if new featur= es in DISCUSS status can actually be in their release. =20 - They can also bring up to the mailing list issues that are in the PROPOSE= list and ask if there are any takers. If not, it then gets dropped out of= that release. Developers: - Can keep track of issues they are interested in. - Have a place to update what they think is the current status. It basically converges on mailing list and Jira and we use wiki as a starti= ng point for end users to refer to these two places. It's actually harder = to start up but I think it will be easier to maintain in the long run. --Alex