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Subject: RE: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
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Heya Sonny,

What kind of plugins would this be? I like the idea of being able to extend=
 the ui dynamically, but I fail to see the use case here. Could you give so=
me examples of what kind of plugins would end up using this system?=20

Cheers,

Hugo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donal Lafferty [mailto:donal.lafferty@citrix.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:59 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
>=20
> Okay, but I'd like a way of distinguishing in speech and text this new wa=
y of
> extending CloudStack from the existing way.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com]
> Sent: 14 December 2012 2:05 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
>=20
> Isn't there a use case for a plugin that has both server and  GUI compone=
nts?
> May be we should keep the name generic.
>=20
> Thanks
> Animesh
>=20
> On Dec 13, 2012, at 5:08 PM, "Pranav Saxena" <pranav.saxena@citrix.com>
> wrote:
>=20
> > Yeah , we can pick  different names for each plugin . I am not sure if =
we'll
> keep a specific format for the naming . All what is required is mapping t=
o a
> unique ID associated with that plugin which would take care of adding a t=
hird
> party plugin to the cloudstack dashboard.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pranav
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donal Lafferty [mailto:donal.lafferty@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:53 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
> >
> > I've a question on terminology.
> >
> > Are these 'GUI plugins' going to use the same component.xml class loade=
r
> as existing plugins?  If not, can we pick different names for each approa=
ch to
> providing a plugin?  E.g. 'GUI plugins' and 'driver plugins'?
> >
> > DL
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pranav Saxena [mailto:pranav.saxena@citrix.com]
> > Sent: 13 December 2012 10:22 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
> >
> > Currently , we haven't discussed access based scenario for a plugin . B=
ut yes
> , this won't be a tough thing to incorporate. We can enable /disable a UI
> plugin based on admin or a normal user .
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pranav
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fang Wang [mailto:fang.wang@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:46 AM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
> >
> > This is a silly question, Do we allow all plugins to have same access r=
ole?
> > OR some plugins have admin access, and some plugins for users only?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Fang
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:52 AM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
> >
> > Sonny
> >
> > How does administrator enable/ disable the plugin if it is misbehaving
> because of bug or let's say after upgrade?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Fang Wang [mailto:fang.wang@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:11 AM
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
> >>
> >> I like the idea of the plugin button so users can see all the plugins.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Sonny Chhen [mailto:Sonny.Chhen@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:01 PM
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Cc: Brian Federle; Pranav Saxena
> >> Subject: '[PROPOSAL]' Third party plugins
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> I would like to discuss a new feature that is being worked on for the
> >> next release of CloudStack. It is the ability to add third party
> >> plugins into CloudStack while still utilizing the current ui. The
> >> procedure in which this would occur is as follows:
> >>
> >>
> >> 1.       The developer  will write a plugin that they would like to ad=
d into
> >> CloudStack
> >>
> >> 2.        Using a predetermined file hierarchy we create, the develope=
r will
> >> place their plugin within the folder structure and fill out a
> >> plugin.js file
> >>
> >> 3.       The admin will then place this folder into the existing Cloud=
Stack
> >> "plugin"
> >>
> >> 4.       The admin will then add this new listing onto the plugin.js f=
ile that
> lies
> >> within that folder
> >>
> >> 5.       The user then just has to refresh the browser and the plugin =
will be
> >> available to use.
> >>
> >> We will be toying with the idea of adding a plugin button to the
> >> navigation so that the user can see what plugins have been installed
> >> and click on them to access them.
> >>
> >> Please see the link below for more information.
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30744936/plu
> >> g
> >> in.jpg
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/3rd+Party+Plug
> >> i
> >> n
> >>
> >> Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks You and Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Sonny H. Chhen
> >> Manager of User Interface & User Experience | Citrix Systems -
> >> CloudPlatform
> >> 4988 Great America Parkway, Santa Clara, CA  95054, USA
> >