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From Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com>
Subject Re: git commit: cli: pip install cloudmonkey works
Date Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:48:14 GMT
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@citrix.com> wrote:
> Hi Chip,
>
> I've added a notice on pypi page saying that it's not an official Apache CloudStack distribution,
published and maintained by community member(s) and listed the author/maintainer fields as
in tools/cli/setup.py: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cloudstack.git;a=blob;f=tools/cli/setup.py;h=627a938e5ba1280356d42f02267e6eb6db47c6b1;hb=29978bdb8160c46fd8d047807b074048a7c7381d

Thanks for making this change Rohit!

> We can have more than one person as admin on the pypi distribution, please let me know
I will add anyone who wants to administrate.
> Alright, if other projects do it along with their release process then we should upload
it officially on pypi starting 4.1.0 after voting/release process.

We'll need to figure out how others handle the use of external package
repos, and community access.  Should this be opened up for any
committer?  Should it be limited to people that are acting as release
managers (which can actually be any committer)?

> Till 4.1.0 release we can keep the notice and use it for non-official releases.
> Lastly, not sure about listing ASF as the author, I used "The Apache CloudStack Team"
(like in top level pom.xml).

Perfect!

> Regards.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Chip Childers [chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 2:09 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: git commit: cli: pip install cloudmonkey works
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 07-Nov-2012, at 4:50 PM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Rohit:
>>>
>>> I saw the below commit, and then this:
>>>
>>> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/cloudmonkey/0.0.4
>>>
>>> Is this a release of a portion of the CloudStack codebase? (This
>>> wasn't in the 4.0.0-incubating release was it?)
>>> Did I miss a discussion of the publication on list somewhere?
>>
>> I released it on pypi (cheese shop) without asking anyone. I did that so a user can
simply get the cli using pip or easy_install.
>>
>> Do I need to go through some process to release the cli on pypi, think like maven
snapshots?
>> I'm sorry if I did anything wrong, I'm unsure and don't know the release process
for distributing client snapshots or python libs such as marvin which are within the source
code. Starting 4.1.0 we can distribute cli etc. along with the release.
>>
>> Regards.
>
> First, let me say that I love the CLI, and am really happy to see it
> under development.  Though now that I look at this closely, I think
> there might be a couple of issues to discuss here.  This is IMO, so
> others should chime in.
>
> In reality, we're using the very permissive ASLv2 license for the
> project, and technically, on pypi, you've not identified the package
> as an official CloudStack project.  You could consider that listing on
> Pypi as the "Rohit distro" of the tool.  Also, you retain the
> copyright to your work and just grant a liberal license to the ASF.
> INAL, but AFAIK you did nothing *legally* wrong.
>
> Here's the part where I think we can work together to improve things:
>
> Obviously, Apache has not *released* any code that includes the
> cloudmonkey CLI tool yet, so that's one concern for us to consider.
> Second, what I've seen other projects do with package distro sites
> like this is to tie the updates / changes to the release process.  For
> example, Deltacloud uploads their gems after voting and releasing the
> source.
>
> Should we consider operating in that way?  Should we further consider
> posting to Pypi with The Apache Software Foundation as the listed
> author?
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:40 AM,  <bhaisaab@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Updated Branches:
>>>>  refs/heads/master a94f6f19b -> b71386530
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cli: pip install cloudmonkey works
>>>>
>>>> Patch makes cloudmonkey installable and redistributable using source dist
from
>>>> pypi under apache compliant license. Most visible issues have been solved
and
>>>> cloudmonkey should work well with CloudStack 4.0 and master, also until APIs
do
>>>> not change.
>>>>
>>
>>
>

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