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From Chip Childers <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] releases going forward
Date Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:32:00 GMT

I think you might be confusing previous Citrix road maps with the new
processes / community here at Apache.  The point of this thread is to
establish the Apache CloudStack release schedule, and previous Citrix
discussions on the topic don't really apply anymore.

However, I personally agree with your point about frequency being
important.  IMO, shorter than 6 months is ideal.


On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Geoff Higginbottom
<> wrote:
> My concern here is that the roadmap has lots of new features, and we do not want to be
waiting 6 months for the next release which was due out in May
> Geoff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley []
> Sent: 14 May 2012 20:07
> To:
> Subject: [DISCUSS] releases going forward
> Hi folks,
> We had some chatter on private@ list regarding the approrpiateness of announcing the
3.0.2 release on the ASF-hosted lists - and that turned into a discussion of where we go from
here with regards to releases with a few opinions circling on whether we should assume that
it's the last release to be generated by Citrix - and when the Apache CloudStack community
will assume responsibility. Matt dutifully reminded us that the discussion need not be private
- and thus I am bringing that discussion here.
> The concern is that there is a fairly significant amount of work to be done to generate
an Apache CloudStack release - a good deal of which will be trial and error and completely
new processes. By way of reference - it appears that Apache OpenOffice took about 10 months
from entering incubation to pushing out a release. I think we are substantially better off
with less to migrate than AOO - but nonetheless it could be a non-trivial amount of time,
whereas we have historically been doing about a release a month.
> At the same time, pushing out a Citrix-generated CloudStack release is a pretty closed
process - QA happens behind closed doors, as does decision making about dates, release criteria,
and virtually everything else. It also requires a non-trivial amount of work for folks who
presumably would be otherwise engaged in pushing Apache CloudStack forward.
> While I certainly hope that 10 (or even 6)  months doesn't go by without a release, my
personal inclination is to focus on Apache CloudStack - but I am but one voice - please discuss.
> Thoughts, comments, flames?
> --David
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