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From Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com>
Subject Re: new features
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:56:14 GMT
My suggestion is Jira.  It lets us track and manage the lifecycle of
features.  If I were to be even more forceful about it, I'd like
everything we're working on to be in Jira (i.e.: no major changes
without a CLOUDSTACK-X id in them, even to feature branches).

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Jie Feng <Jie.Feng@citrix.com> wrote:
> There seem to be a few places where new feature requests come up: CloudStack user mailing
list,  CloudStack dev mailing list, the two sites Chiradeep mentioned below, and JIRA. Is
there a guideline for what to do if we have a new feature request? Ideally, all the discussions
for a specific request should be tracked somewhere, so that people can continue to comment
on it until implemented. Also, it would be nice if there is a central place developer can
go to see the feature requests and pick up the ones they want to work on, and users can see
when it will be implemented. I wonder how other Apache project deals with this.
>
> Jie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:Chiradeep.Vittal@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: CloudStack Users
> Subject: Re: new features
>
> New features continue to be posted on the dev mailing list. Feature specifications are
here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Next+Rele
> ase
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Design
>
>
> On 11/1/12 7:00 AM, "Chip Childers" <chip.childers@sungard.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Giles Sirett
>><giles.sirett@shapeblue.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Thanks Chip
>>> Agreed: I think it is absolutely essential that the USERS  of
>>>Cloudstack help drive the new features and roadmap of the product. We
>>>are the people at the "coalface", we are the people who hear feedback
>>>from our businesses & customers on a daily basis
>>>
>>> As an example, I saw a mail (yesterday?) about the lack of password
>>>reset. To many in this community, that is probably a trivial issue.
>>>However, I can tell everybody that it is the number 1 feature
>>>complaint I get from Cloudstack customers. In the real world, it just
>>>isn't sensible to deploy a user facing GUI if users cannot reset their
>>>own passwords. Features like this may not be as high profile and
>>>interesting as others, but they are things that make a difference when
>>>people decide whether to use CS or not
>>>
>>>
>>> What you suggest is exactly what I intend doing.... my session at
>>>Collab is called " Feedback from the coalface: what our customers are
>>>asking for". I intend to make it an interactive discussion/workshop
>>>for people to bring in their ideas of great new features. If we get
>>>enough ideas, we may even have a vote on preferences and priorities.
>>> Although that workshop wouldn't be a formal Apache workshop, I would
>>>like to think that we can bring those ideas into the community for
>>>consideration afterwards.
>>>
>>
>>Just to correct something minor:  There isn't such a think as a "formal
>>Apache workshop".  New features can be proposed, but they have to end
>>up as proposals on the dev list for the project.
>>
>>But I get your point...  and if you (and other users) are able to
>>collectively pull together feature requests and some level of measured
>>interest, you (or someone else) can bring those over to the dev list
>>via feature requests.
>>
>>Building up an active user community that helps drive features for the
>>devs is a great initiative.  I'd love to see this evolve into a very
>>active feedback loop!
>>
>>> In advance of this session, what I'm trying to do is take stock of
>>>what is already  requested and/or planned. And so far (from my
>>>previous) I see only 12 open requests.
>>>
>>> Thinking about it, if anybody has any good ideas for feature
>>>requests, it would be great if you're able to share them on this list
>>>(or PM me if you prefer)  - I can then feed those ideas into the session at Collab.
>>> Also thinking about it Chip : do you want to help me run that session ?
>>>:-)
>>
>>Happy to lend a hand.  We can catch up in LV perhaps...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
>>> Sent: 01 November 2012 13:24
>>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: new features
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Giles Sirett
>>><giles.sirett@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I¹m preparing a workshop for the Collab conf end November and  I
>>>> want to get a definitive list of all  current open feature requests
>>>> for Cloudstack
>>>>
>>>> I go here
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator!executeAdvanced
>>>> .j
>>>> spa
>>>>
>>>> and search for
>>>>
>>>> project = CLOUDSTACK AND issuetype = "New Feature" ORDER BY priority
>>>> DESC
>>>>
>>>> gives me 12 results
>>>>
>>>> Is that correct? ­ is that ALL open new feature requests ?
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>>
>>>> Giles
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Giles,
>>>
>>> I actually started a thread related to this on cloudstack-dev@i.a.o
>>>recently, specifically focused on the feature release after
>>>4.0.0-incubating.  We're trying to sort out (1) how we collect new
>>>feature ideas, and (2) how we organize them into release activities as
>>>I type this.  I do know that there are many ideas that have already
>>>been proposed on the dev list that are not records in Jira yet.
>>>
>>> If the user community (this list) is interested in driving a
>>>discussion around what you would like the developers to work on, I
>>>think that would be a great thing to do.  Keep in mind that the
>>>developers will pick and choose what they are interested in working
>>>on, but the more information we get from our users the better!
>>>
>>> -chip
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