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From Jie Feng <Jie.F...@citrix.com>
Subject RE: new features
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:49:20 GMT
There seem to be a few places where new feature requests come up: CloudStack user mailing list,
 CloudStack dev mailing list, the two sites Chiradeep mentioned below, and JIRA. Is there
a guideline for what to do if we have a new feature request? Ideally, all the discussions
for a specific request should be tracked somewhere, so that people can continue to comment
on it until implemented. Also, it would be nice if there is a central place developer can
go to see the feature requests and pick up the ones they want to work on, and users can see
when it will be implemented. I wonder how other Apache project deals with this.

Jie

-----Original Message-----
From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:Chiradeep.Vittal@citrix.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:49 AM
To: CloudStack Users
Subject: Re: new features

New features continue to be posted on the dev mailing list. Feature specifications are here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Next+Rele
ase

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Design


On 11/1/12 7:00 AM, "Chip Childers" <chip.childers@sungard.com> wrote:

>On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Giles Sirett 
><giles.sirett@shapeblue.com>
>wrote:
>> Thanks Chip
>> Agreed: I think it is absolutely essential that the USERS  of 
>>Cloudstack help drive the new features and roadmap of the product. We 
>>are the people at the "coalface", we are the people who hear feedback 
>>from our businesses & customers on a daily basis
>>
>> As an example, I saw a mail (yesterday?) about the lack of password 
>>reset. To many in this community, that is probably a trivial issue.
>>However, I can tell everybody that it is the number 1 feature 
>>complaint I get from Cloudstack customers. In the real world, it just 
>>isn't sensible to deploy a user facing GUI if users cannot reset their 
>>own passwords. Features like this may not be as high profile and 
>>interesting as others, but they are things that make a difference when 
>>people decide whether to use CS or not
>>
>>
>> What you suggest is exactly what I intend doing.... my session at 
>>Collab is called " Feedback from the coalface: what our customers are 
>>asking for". I intend to make it an interactive discussion/workshop 
>>for people to bring in their ideas of great new features. If we get 
>>enough ideas, we may even have a vote on preferences and priorities.
>> Although that workshop wouldn't be a formal Apache workshop, I would 
>>like to think that we can bring those ideas into the community for 
>>consideration afterwards.
>>
>
>Just to correct something minor:  There isn't such a think as a "formal 
>Apache workshop".  New features can be proposed, but they have to end 
>up as proposals on the dev list for the project.
>
>But I get your point...  and if you (and other users) are able to 
>collectively pull together feature requests and some level of measured 
>interest, you (or someone else) can bring those over to the dev list 
>via feature requests.
>
>Building up an active user community that helps drive features for the 
>devs is a great initiative.  I'd love to see this evolve into a very 
>active feedback loop!
>
>> In advance of this session, what I'm trying to do is take stock of 
>>what is already  requested and/or planned. And so far (from my 
>>previous) I see only 12 open requests.
>>
>> Thinking about it, if anybody has any good ideas for feature 
>>requests, it would be great if you're able to share them on this list 
>>(or PM me if you prefer)  - I can then feed those ideas into the session at Collab.
>> Also thinking about it Chip : do you want to help me run that session ?
>>:-)
>
>Happy to lend a hand.  We can catch up in LV perhaps...
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
>> Sent: 01 November 2012 13:24
>> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: new features
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Giles Sirett 
>><giles.sirett@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I¹m preparing a workshop for the Collab conf end November and  I 
>>> want to get a definitive list of all  current open feature requests  
>>> for Cloudstack
>>>
>>> I go here
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator!executeAdvanced
>>> .j
>>> spa
>>>
>>> and search for
>>>
>>> project = CLOUDSTACK AND issuetype = "New Feature" ORDER BY priority 
>>> DESC
>>>
>>> gives me 12 results
>>>
>>> Is that correct? ­ is that ALL open new feature requests ?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>>
>>> Giles
>>>
>>
>> Hey Giles,
>>
>> I actually started a thread related to this on cloudstack-dev@i.a.o 
>>recently, specifically focused on the feature release after 
>>4.0.0-incubating.  We're trying to sort out (1) how we collect new 
>>feature ideas, and (2) how we organize them into release activities as 
>>I type this.  I do know that there are many ideas that have already 
>>been proposed on the dev list that are not records in Jira yet.
>>
>> If the user community (this list) is interested in driving a 
>>discussion around what you would like the developers to work on, I 
>>think that would be a great thing to do.  Keep in mind that the 
>>developers will pick and choose what they are interested in working 
>>on, but the more information we get from our users the better!
>>
>> -chip
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