Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5CABD11E for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 20:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37876 invoked by uid 500); 9 Oct 2012 20:15:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37831 invoked by uid 500); 9 Oct 2012 20:15:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37823 invoked by uid 99); 9 Oct 2012 20:15:58 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:15:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of nslater@tumbolia.org designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.175] (HELO mail-vc0-f175.google.com) (209.85.220.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:15:51 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id p1so7353688vcq.6 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:15:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tumbolia.org; s=google; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4adbNoLLuCaBXIzEQx35Nlt3mCwneIiRdrTsE2BR4zk=; b=KGOaTCpTnFyHLlNHc4coNVfjqwr0BCfoQr4n6tJc+S0iTkqGFDMq9dLM2uVPs0PsVv 23/5QnvcydYIQFRJIqdjjjBNRL9blpy3C/qk9YAj6TFtzlQ4JA1eLIo0nLEpOVbJS3i6 dpT9oBBeDP4T70P2sVmQe72kAVYaS148WTrFA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=4adbNoLLuCaBXIzEQx35Nlt3mCwneIiRdrTsE2BR4zk=; b=PMQDeLBcZavgw2dz7TCNNBtDqCjqKwXELwac/sJm58ldeYpgPv832fDSPPV8Aqi8DG jMHHBzgkwM4asOd4LRAoic4tJAGjLWZPgEtQMsVjzc6L0M8TEMRGQRFsQlXv5swnps9Z 710pHQcv1RZ9BdwR+Zn5lO4w86u1879cdGlIB9rWv2fidoZ/coIZFgl52887gOll/dcu UzXHIbIvLDHjsCsw6cG6ziAgmof9Py/MhYwWF/rNxm+TFipJ8XH4uVdpH9aE8ayqfAm9 wsWfl1sGJ0HzLwTdJ/3bsPqHlP/b7A4WYqL5fd91bAqlU3qWHUuVrHotvpXI492llsdy gcTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.139 with SMTP id r11mr10135161vdi.11.1349813730479; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.19.131 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:15:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [79.97.124.139] In-Reply-To: References: <1349810800.16132.140661138571913.4DFA4460@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:15:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Incubator status page From: Noah Slater To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca3deeb0fb904cba5ff0c X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnPQZ2BwK7iJUWrX0JSCndOWFf3CZHeab6DbqaFg/QuPBvyC8ucSmiQ2lv3KTsVzB1g4gbd --20cf307ca3deeb0fb904cba5ff0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You've lost me. Which IPMC voting process? It seems to me that the legal checkpoints here clearly need to be completed before we can do a release. Is there anything in the tabular part of this status page you do not think is necessary to complete, or mark as complete, before we ship our first release? On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > Noah, > > I think that the advice we need to take from this, is to update the > page prior to getting to the IPMC voting process (which is after the > project-level vote). Otherwise, we'll have a similar conversation. > > We may not be done all of the steps required for graduation, but many > of the steps have been completed. We should take credit for doing the > work we have done! > > I'm willing to update the page for *some* of the items... now to go > dig up the info on where / how. > > -chip > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > I am basing my suggestion on this comment Henri Yandell made: > > > > "There are other legal items on that page that you should review and > > decide if you can check off. If you're releasing, then I would expect > > that page to have no unfinished tasks." > > > > http://s.apache.org/SqR > > > > But maybe he just means the *legal* checkpoints? > > > > From looking at it... > > > > - Mentor-related responsibility/oversight > > > > This is complete, and can be marked as such, with dates. > > > > - Copyright > > > > This looks like it is complete. (Assuming trademark rights are separate.) > > > > - Verify distribution rights > > > > This looks like it is complete. > > > > - Establish a list of active committers > > > > This looks like it is complete. > > > > - Project specific > > > > This is partially complete, but from the looks of it needs to be > completed > > before the release? > > > > So, it doesn't seem to be an issue for us to sort all this out, no? > > > > Looking for other mentor input here, in case I am misunderstanding > things. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012, at 02:22 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > >> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Noah Slater > >> wrote: > >> > Noah, > >> > > >> > AFAIK, those are the graduation checklist, not a release checklist. > Am I > >> > wrong? > >> > >> Seems to me it's a graduation checklist, as it's referenced here under > >> the graduation guide: > >> > >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-status > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Joe > >> -- > >> Joe Brockmeier > >> jzb@zonker.net > >> Twitter: @jzb > >> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > NS > -- NS --20cf307ca3deeb0fb904cba5ff0c--