Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B91DA9989 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16445 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2012 18:39:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 16380 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2012 18:39:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 16359 invoked by uid 99); 13 Oct 2012 18:39:57 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:39:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rohit.yadav@citrix.com designates 203.166.19.134 as permitted sender) Received: from [203.166.19.134] (HELO SMTP.CITRIX.COM.AU) (203.166.19.134) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:39:53 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,580,1344211200"; d="scan'208";a="13091865" Received: from banpmailmx02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) by SYDPIPO01.CITRIX.COM.AU with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 13 Oct 2012 18:38:25 +0000 Received: from BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net ([10.103.128.71]) by BANPMAILMX02.citrite.net ([10.103.128.74]) with mapi; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:08:24 +0530 From: Rohit Yadav To: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" CC: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:08:23 +0530 Subject: RE: What Gartner can't - or won't - tell you about OpenStack Cloud Thread-Topic: What Gartner can't - or won't - tell you about OpenStack Cloud Thread-Index: Ac2pZeHJGbvIelQaTOSOjJnkmU2TqAACpvF1 Message-ID: <0BCCCE152323764BB7FD6AE6D7A1D906FE11C32DF8@BANPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Touch=E9 David! World's a big place for all the opensource IaaS projects an= d we can make CloudStack more audacious with some positive writings and blo= gs. >From today HN top posts: http://zachholman.com/talk/product-is-the-byproduc= t "Worry about building the damn thing; worry less about the damn thing"; sta= rt from slide 63 :) Looking forward to planet, and 4.0. Regards. ________________________________________ From: David Nalley [david@gnsa.us] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:41 PM To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: What Gartner can't - or won't - tell you about OpenStack Cloud Hi folks: So a couple of comments. I appreciate the level of passion seen in this thread - it tells me that people love CloudStack. That said, open source projects competing among themselves is almost always fruitless. The world is large enough for two, three, or more open source IaaS projects. (Just like the world is big enough for PostgreSQL and MySQL; Red Hat, Ubuntu, SLES, Slackware, and others.) In short, this project's goal is not to beat OpenStack. The goal is to be a useful, stable, community-led Infrastructure-as-a-Service open source project. When you see articles that contain misinformation, it's perfect acceptable to provide corrections. It's also important to catch what they see as legitimate defects - file those as bugs, and lets correct them. Far more valuable though, IMO, is that we spend our time doing the the following two things: 1. Testing, fixing, and documenting Apache CloudStack so that it is the best IaaS platform available. (Have you tested the latest 4.0.0 RC builds?) 2. Telling the story of how/why we use CloudStack (notice I didn't say why it's better, or why it beats $foo project) To that end, John Kinsella has been working with Apache Infrastructure to get an Apache CloudStack planet setup where we can aggregate such blogs, so watch for updates on this front and consider aggregating your blog there, but don't hesitate to start blogging now :) --David