Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52E22DC6D for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59675 invoked by uid 500); 11 Aug 2012 03:41:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cloudstack-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59635 invoked by uid 500); 11 Aug 2012 03:41:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cloudstack-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59603 invoked by uid 99); 11 Aug 2012 03:41:21 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:41:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.160.47] (HELO mail-pb0-f47.google.com) (209.85.160.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:41:16 +0000 Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so3473654pbc.6 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:40:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=1XamAkW+KVAbqueuk5DTZ2Lm+f7+/0MbU2bTNLZa2cI=; b=C8XsNr1xHaDdn2tCZTauRa/+jPl4r8hpKpvaPztSdyDiwzyHC8RpzK1rQBBlyBS4mD q9BXiZ54RUwvykg6J/sXlt6XlD4Fw2wkQPcE6EQt7i2X9td74v78A/9PPAJf4UKfvXqT ZbpLDfKy9RC4AEmrMshjmv8JBmRsLHatIrZb97qzi7ojt0JbdHWLMlnq6dtPh0FCOqp8 Zp+LADNMRU+AM1USB00G/BcqdDN3pa4G38DzqwTa6Qb8YUnEel2fP6PiMk1aT9evrAQr LcrKVnpk08CRLpyUlv4vH3DTCewruLsPL4Ugsia6wLMLxZ/emuQgZ8G/UFluJEyodbSy /Bvg== Received: by 10.68.136.233 with SMTP id qd9mr2408897pbb.166.1344656455120; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:40:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.201.21 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:40:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <61AE1E2837A06D4A8E98B796183842D401292FD2DFCA@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> References: <53AEFEE9DD31EF42ADDDAD0125BCD52DD726AC2EC8@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <6005BE083BF501439A84DC3523BAC82DE44D7E43EC@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <8958392355476010626@unknownmsgid> <6005BE083BF501439A84DC3523BAC82DE44D7E43EF@LONPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> <61AE1E2837A06D4A8E98B796183842D401292FD2DFCA@SJCPMAILBOX01.citrite.net> From: David Nalley Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:40:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Release Management Process To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkxL2Wtko/grFpnRzIUtfkdhzvXAnJLC1fmAwMhC0Gmde4HFdHE57jczH7M+fM6diYj1EJK X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Will Chan wrote: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+4.0+Release+Checklist > > Ewan, thanks the release plan. A couple of questions since I wasn't sure if the goal is to include them in the release: > > 1. I don't see the Netscaler AutoScaling feature merge into master. Has that been done already or we are not going to include it? > > 2. Would 4.0 include upgrade from 3.0.2? If not, when would we support this? If so, has anyone even checked to see if this was even possible? A couple of issues with NetScaler support in general at the moment. It hasn't been relicensed, so it is still proprietary and I've gotten no response on the emails asking for status updates. I have no idea where to even get the jars from. Last email I saw on the autoscale topic from Ewan suggested that it wasn't ready and wouldn't be by code freeze. As for upgrade, I didn't honestly think that was a question. We have thousands of CloudStack deployments, and since we are doing time based releases, telling them to effectively wait 9 months to a year since their last update doesn't sound reasonable. (E.g. if it's not now, it's 4.1 - which is several months at a minimum after 4.0 is released). IMO we ought never have a release that doesn't support upgrades. --David