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From Chip Childers <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] releases going forward
Date Mon, 14 May 2012 20:15:28 GMT

My 2 cents (and possibly drawing flames myself):

During the transition period (and beyond), Citrix is going to do what it
needs to do as a commercial entity.  While this list is intended to focus
on the ASF project itself, it's going to take time for an official Apache
release to be approved.  For the purpose of my point, the actual estimate
doesn't matter much really...  shorter, longer or the same as the time it
took for AOO, it's going to be further off than (I assume) Citrix will wait
to create a commercial release of the Citrix Cloud Platform.

I do think that there is value for the community to hear about the closed
efforts that Citrix completes (or plans to complete), and would disagree
with "banning" that type of information from being on this list.  As an
individual that happens to work for Citrix, I don't see any conflict with
the two hats you wear (as most of us have multiple hats).

However, I would suggest that it be limited to important milestones that
are being shared more publicly via other channels as well, and should
probably be clearly noted as being information from Citrix and not ASF.

Examples:  share information when you do a commercial release, but not when
a performance test is started by a Citrix QA engineer that's focused on an
upcoming commercial product release.

I think that sharing public information about Citrix activities on this
list is a positive for the overall community.  It's really no different
than sharing information about a commercial distributions success in a top
level Apache project's dev listing.  It would be informational only, but be
a positive bit of news for the community as a whole.  I assume that
everyone likes to hear about success stories.

Since this is supposed to be a community owned list, I would hope that (if
there is consensus on the list) nobody has any issues about information
being shared that's of interest to the participants!


On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:21 PM, David Nalley <> wrote:

> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Geoff Higginbottom
> <> wrote:
> > My concern here is that the roadmap has lots of new features, and we do
> not want to be waiting 6 months for the next release which was due out in
> May
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> A valid point - though it's worth pointing out that the roadmap you
> are referring to was one from the previous Citrix-governed project
> (and was largely driven by Citrix-employed product management) - there
> are no guarantees that the timelines, accepted features, or even
> version numbers/names will remain the same under Apache governance; as
> has been repeatedly pointed out - Citrix (or any other corporation)
> has no standing here - only individuals.
> --David

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