Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-click-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 80903 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2010 09:09:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 4 Jul 2010 09:09:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 44173 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2010 09:09:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-click-dev-archive@click.apache.org Received: (qmail 44112 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2010 09:09:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@click.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@click.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@click.apache.org Received: (qmail 44104 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jul 2010 09:09:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:09:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of development.jsh@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.170] (HELO mail-wy0-f170.google.com) (74.125.82.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:08:56 +0000 Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36so1315566wyb.29 for ; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 02:07:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kecPF4QnoDMYi3UJxUpQz11/sj5VUOJO8k8JgwZ0t2g=; b=YaIQhqqVvP36niCjAUwO/9MjJ0VXou9ACAlFk0zf8CWx6toIO8xizH+jlDKITm9Hn5 ChvDDZ7GauGpQYafRvyosvnS78Og2YKByOL8+iUNR9XFmSFFJnA+9f3x9i54pI92gzlE gHg6iXToXz6MQDOtxr69aSoBylhxUC7yq14VU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Rbs93NBGrRCalY54XvVb9/13GbFfvH11YTz50uoXzRC4RnhDnZb3SyMkrOp5vizf3H flI9mAp6d0DDzVh+/38lxQRKIjyT5V/X/rZQUpWk+U0By7vstmrvelPH433NhBOK6cH4 P7HYutXLDaWt8X1fErtC5fquYAwYLysI8672o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.133.201 with SMTP id g9mr1465531wbt.228.1278234452591; Sun, 04 Jul 2010 02:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.152.70 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jul 2010 02:07:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C300542.4090302@gmail.com> References: <4C300542.4090302@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 11:07:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Should we From: "Md. Jahid Shohel" To: dev@click.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636831ab27c8321048a8c26d9 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001636831ab27c8321048a8c26d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Bob Schellink wrote: > On 4/07/2010 09:36, Md. Jahid Shohel wrote: > > > > 1) irc channel: I can create one on freenode. And we all can come there > > when we are online. That way users can get live help. Will also open > > scope for us to chat online. Most of the popular frameworks have > > channels under freenode. That way normal users also becomes helper for > > each other. And not to mention that, live helps are better then any sort > > of forum based (asynchronous) helps, because its live :). Of course > > cooperation from all will be needed for this. > > > I don't see how this will expand the user base but feel free to open an IRC > channel and we can add > it to the website somewhere. I personally don't use live channels because > its too easy to get > interrupted. There is also no searchable archive (but I could be wrong)? > > >I don't see how this will expand the user base but feel free to open an IRC channel and we can add Getting the support fast, support always works for people. and when they recommend about a framework, they say it like this way "their support is very good, and community is very strong". and while saying those, i saw people mentioning irc channels. >There is also no searchable archive (but I could be wrong)? Yes there is if we can spend time. I saw channels (ex. Java, Wicket, Spring,etc channels) grew up their irc bot, which contains a lot of information, and its easily searchable. And in fact, there is a Kenai Java project for such irc bot. Of course, dedication is needed for that to grow up the bot. Once a bot is matured, then bot in fact reply everything :) I have registered a room on freenode (irc.freenode.com) with name #click. Lets see how it goes. --001636831ab27c8321048a8c26d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Bob Sche= llink <sabob1@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On 4/07/2010 09:36, Md. Jahid Shohel wrote:
>
> 1) irc channel: I can create one on freenode. And we all can come ther= e
> when we are online. That way users can get live help. Will also open > scope for us to chat online. Most of the popular frameworks have
> channels under freenode. That way normal users also becomes helper for=
> each other. And not to mention that, live helps are better then any so= rt
> of forum based (asynchronous) helps, because its live :). Of course > cooperation from all will be needed for this.


I don't see how this will expand the user base but feel free to o= pen an IRC channel and we can add
it to the website somewhere. I personally don't use live channels becau= se its too easy to get
interrupted. There is also no searchable archive (but I could be wrong)?



>I don= 't see how this will expand the user base but feel free to open an=20 IRC channel and we can add

Getting the support fast, support always = works for people. and when they recommend about a framework, they say it li= ke this way "their support is very good, and community is very strong&= quot;. and while saying those, i saw people mentioning irc channels.

>There is also no searchable archive (but I could be wrong)?

= Yes there is if we can spend time. I saw channels (ex. Java, Wicket, Spring= ,etc channels) grew up their irc bot, which contains a lot of information, = and its easily searchable. And in fact, there is a Kenai Java project for s= uch irc bot. Of course, dedication is needed for that to grow up the bot. O= nce a bot is matured, then bot in fact reply everything :)



I have registered a room on freenode (irc.freenode.com) with name #click.=A0 Lets see how it goes.=
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