Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-click-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 40592 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2010 12:14:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 17 Jun 2010 12:14:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 93180 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jun 2010 12:14:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-click-dev-archive@click.apache.org Received: (qmail 93106 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jun 2010 12:14:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@click.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@click.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@click.apache.org Received: (qmail 93099 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jun 2010 12:14:26 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:14:26 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of gcwcd-click-development-2@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.12 as permitted sender) Received: from [80.91.229.12] (HELO lo.gmane.org) (80.91.229.12) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:14:21 +0000 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPDyq-00024e-57 for dev@click.apache.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:14:00 +0200 Received: from 85.121.189.149 ([85.121.189.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:14:00 +0200 Received: from a.adrian.tech by 85.121.189.149 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:14:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: dev@click.apache.org connect(): No such file or directory From: "Adrian A." Subject: Re: Removing OgnlOps, ConcurrentReaderHashMap and WebappLoader Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:13:38 +0200 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <4C19DAE5.1090800@gmail.com> <4C19F861.1030309@gmail.com> <4C1A0572.2000703@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.121.189.149 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: >>>> Also regarding the javassist dependency, this shouldn't be a >>>> problem >>>> cause the scope of the dependency is "provided": >>>> http://github.com/jkuhnert/ognl/issues/closed#issue/2 >>> I assume that is maven-speak :) Does provided mean optional? >> >> I think it's something like this - if the users "provides" it at >> runtime, than it will be used, otherwise it's not required. > No, it is a dependence! > It means ognl won't work if you (you environment) don't have it[1]. (for > example: javax.annotation is provided, if you don't have it nothing works!) > [1]http://www.sonatype.com/books/mvnref-book/reference/pom-relationships-sect-project-dependencies.html#pom-relationships-sect-dependency-scope Isn't this because such code is also using javax.annotation directly? (In the case of OGNL, Click code is not using javassist directly). If it would be a runtime dependence, than would be quite strange considering that I asked the actual developer of OGNL to remove the dependency if it's possible, and his answer was: "But the scope is "provided", so it isn't a problem" :). Adrian. P.S. I'm so thankful that Click is using ANT :).