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From Marco Zaugg <>
Subject Re: How to modify pages on the project website
Date Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:40:17 GMT

On 07.04.2011, at 07:07, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer wrote:

Hi Marco,

Even when you're not a developer you're free to proposes patches to the
website publication process as well as to the website content itself. It is
requirement on a process however that all content is stored in svn, so
simple SFTP isn't an option.

That already is a NOGO for a non-techie. Storing data in svn, fine. But a non-techie does
work with such tools. Actually even SFTP would already be challenging. That's why wikis and
other CMS should be used in the mid-term.

Also keep in mind that documentation should mainly be available in the
documentation both published on the website as well as being available
online on a clerezza instance. So the process should take this into account.

Agree with that, I think I'm not writing technical documentation, but rather the
content around that, be it use cases, solutions that already use Clerezza, acknowledgments,
non-tech summaries etc. I personally doubt that this type of information is needed
in a Clerezza instance.

As mentioned in an earlier mauil to the subject, you're also welcome to
raise issues against the current content, this issues may be accompanied by
a patch but may also just describe the typo in the text. Even for the
technical audience the content needs to be revisited, the start page
advertises a non existent front end adaptor for the sesame api.

Quite a time-consuming and unpractical way. If one would like to build the page using
different styling options etc. you need whether a cms or simple html/css/javascript
structure you can modify in a text editor or Dreamweaver.

If Henry and co. would like to push Clerezza out to invite developers and advanced users
to use it, we have to talk their language. And the content should be actually written by
people that understands their needs. That's the beauty of a open source community, different
people with different backgrounds and skills can share their time and experience for a greater

But hey, if you don't need us and write everything yourself, bon. No problem. But if you need
us you have to compromise.


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:53 AM, Marco Zaugg <<>>

Hi there

I'd like to contribute my non-techie time to work on
the project website
as the current site contains many typos, missing content
for IT executives, Non-SemWeb savvies etc.

Although not usual in the developer world I thought even
contributing summaries of what Apache Clerezza is about
in different languages.

Question: How do I modify the content without being a
Clerezza Core developer. I'm looking for whether a
simple SSH/SFTP access to HTML files or a simple CMS
that I can use to populate the content. Of course somebody
of the core team will have to approve the content.

In order to improve the speed of developer howtos and
further documentation I would rather use a wiki such
as Confluence or similar. My company is partner of Atlassian
and therefore able to provide a customized Apache Clerezza
Wiki skin.

I challenge the current process of updating content as it
seems to be too time consuming and over-engineered for what
the community need. If you want good quality documentation you
have to lower the hurdles for those that are willing to
contribute. If you'd like to showcase the capabilities of
Apache Clerezza don't do that jeopardizing the easyness of
updating content. This actually is one of the leasons learned
in the knowledge management world that came out with wikis
as one of the answers to that.


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