Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-chukwa-user-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 96574 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2010 17:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2010 17:05:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 12751 invoked by uid 500); 8 Apr 2010 17:05:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-hadoop-chukwa-user-archive@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 12724 invoked by uid 500); 8 Apr 2010 17:05:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact chukwa-user-help@hadoop.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: chukwa-user@hadoop.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list chukwa-user@hadoop.apache.org Received: (qmail 12716 invoked by uid 99); 8 Apr 2010 17:05:25 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:05:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=10.0 tests=AWL,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of asrabkin@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.193 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.221.193] (HELO mail-qy0-f193.google.com) (209.85.221.193) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:05:20 +0000 Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so3703245qyk.20 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a9/+hIPeubAOBE1pEGH5FP3SVrcQ2FYnKUQKzTk0cxo=; b=EdLzZiaAQShuqQ4XCY91HvnOykXuCqp/Tcks6kENuAEyAcygqo6YUsx6VIct3S7IK2 H6nuQp9y6X8e2ve5QuICjno0Yd6n9OGwOHVKaIbv20fGlB5cKzSlKPiz8l1Iua9lTA/U 9+bb+0dM7vz0c+3Kvl052lS7ZbCq5b/5i15GU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b2b0doauOUbxewkGgGbl1YCN/9W4+6KOANErF/DsSxJdcwmVx6BnMTbz9OQ+DKiouY HM2Z7NpmtNc6aUJhzHjygf8e8Evehy09Pnqy3aWL6RWN3mpZ0AtFYj+14OXd1Cu3Fpn0 sjnOd8x8Mo3Sb8S00IZ4ICgEuPB5kRwFvOmDE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.147 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:04:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:04:58 -0700 Received: by 10.229.226.1 with SMTP id iu1mr618853qcb.19.1270746298268; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Begin a discussion about Chukwa as a top level project From: Ariel Rabkin To: chukwa-user@hadoop.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Eric Yang wrote: > I see three ways that we as a community can respond to this: > > 1) Say yes, we want to be a TLP now. > > 2) Say yes, we want to be a TLP, but not yet. We feel we need more > time to mature. If we choose this option we need to be able to clearly > articulate how much time we need and what we hope to see change in > that time. > > 3) Say no, we feel the benefits for us staying with Hadoop outweigh > the drawbacks of being a disjoint subproject. If we choose this, we > need to be able to say exactly what those benefits are and why we feel > they will be compromised by leaving the Hadoop project. I'm okay with any of these, and I guess lean towards 1. I don't see any huge benefit in #2 or #3 over #1. --Ari -- Ari Rabkin asrabkin@gmail.com UC Berkeley Computer Science Department