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From Eric Yang <>
Subject Re: Incubator report due by July 4th
Date Sun, 08 Jul 2012 03:45:11 GMT
Hi Chris,

I agreed on retiring Chukwa, if the community does not revive itself.
The agreement was before Hadoop summit.  In Hadoop summit, there were
a few talks that advertised Chukwa, and had trigger some activities
and 2 people sent patches to me directly.  I become optimistic again
about Chukwa from those activities.  Hence, thing did change when I
was writing the report for July.  I am sorry for the confusion, and
Jukka was right that a over active lead may be preventing the growth
of the community.  Hence, I think we should try some experiment that
we open Chukwa for free enrollment for committers and see if any thing
develop from this.  If activities still decline in next report, then
we can close Chukwa for good.  Does this seem like a reasonable


On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Chris Douglas <> wrote:
> Dude, you commented on it. Are you being coy about the dev list or do you
> really not remember? It wasn't a VOTE, it was a thread where everyone on
> the PPMC +1'd a motion to end incubation after the next release established
> clean licensing. The board report not only didn't mention that thread, but
> it discussed the project's focus on expanding the contributor list and the
> upcoming release. Bernd also seemed confused by this dissonance.
> If there's cause for optimism and/or we need another cycle to generate that
> "last" release: no problem. I prefer that outcome to retiring the podling.
> But the report pivoted based on information that was not discussed or
> disclosed on the dev list. -C
> On Thursday, July 5, 2012, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>> On Jul 5, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
>> > All this should be mentioned in the report. The PPMC voted to retire
>> > the podling.
>> What vote was this?
>> > The report took a different direction and tone, electing
>> > to focus on cause for optimism in gathering new contributors. If
>> > that's true, that's great, but the author of the board report can't
>> > unilaterally reverse a vote. Please either reopen the discussion or
>> > update the report. Mentors can't sign off on it in its current form.
>> > -C
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Eric Yang <> wrote:
>> >> I talk to Chris in Hadoop summit, and I think there is still chance
>> >> for Chukwa to continue.  It seems like the user base is developing, it
>> >> was advertised by Netflix that they use Chukwa in Hadoop summit talk
>> >> and Chukwa talked about in various presentations.  There are 46 people
>> >> that has Chukwa skill set on linkedin as oppose to 32 from 4 month
>> >> ago.  I think it is showing a steady pace of gaining momentum.
>> >> Perhaps, I think we should give it more time.
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> Eric
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Bernd Fondermann
>> >> <> wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Eric Yang <>
>> >>>> Hi Alan,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Report is ready for review.  Thanks for the reminder.
>> >>>
>> >>> The plan of retiring the podling after the next release is not
>> mentioned.
>> >>> Has this plan been changed?
>> >>>
>> >>>  Bernd

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