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From Michael Jaruska <>
Subject Re: basic tutorial
Date Sat, 22 Dec 2012 23:31:49 GMT
and a lot of other software too :-)

On 22.12.2012 20:35, Pascal Robert wrote:
> So you should avoid using Alfresco :-)
>> In fact I would argue that any system that requires you to edit xml by hand
>> is fundamentally broken (I"m looking at you JPA). XML is meant for machines
>> not humans, and if you develop an xml dialect to represent something you've
>> only started your work. Never make your users edit XML. Never.
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:21 PM, John Huss <> wrote:
>>> This message should be on the user mailing list, not the dev list, so
>>> please reply there.
>>> Cayenne is not primarily intended to be used that way, so there is no
>>> tutorial.  It is possible to do, but there's not really a good reason to
>>> for a beginner.  Using the modeler prevents from having to know the whole
>>> XML api - instead the screens may it fairly easily to figure out what you
>>> need to do.
>>> Anyway if you want to hand-code the XML you can create a mapping using the
>>> modeler (or find an example) and then see how the XML looks, then follow
>>> the same pattern.  There is also a DTD somewhere I believe.  But you should
>>> really use the modeler, at least until you get a hang of the basics.  Even
>>> if you decide to skip the modeler later, start with it first.
>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Michael Jaruska
>>> <>wrote:
>>>> hi folks,
>>>> i'm searching for tutorial for using cayene without caynene modeler, i
>>> need
>>>> something like "download this jar, write this bean, edit this xml in this
>>>> way
>>>> and this is how you can access objects from database".
>>>> i'm not fun of grafical/ide tools (writing this hope this won't lead into
>>>> spam), just like hand-make work.
>>>> is there tutorial with this aspect keeping in mind?
>>>> please be patient to my beginer question.
>>>> michael

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