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"bloating apps with generic junk" -> well when you work on your own 
projects maybe but when customer changes his mind twice a week, generic 
junks starts becoming quite handy.

On 10/19/2011 12:54 PM, Bruno René Santos wrote:
> Hey Hugi,
>
> Continuing the off-topic :) (sorry everyone feel free to ignore this) I have
> just watched the clip and yet she has a point I think It is totally
> dependent on the amount of logic your project has and also the the
> frameworks you're using. For large projects and large teams, worrying about
> CSS, HTML, SQL and other low level conceptions on a daily basis can be quite
> a nuisance when you have forms and windows layouts with dozens of fields
> that need validation, event handling and persistence. I use cayenne for most
> of my projects and I dont feel cheated or disconnected from the low levels
> of my application at all, but being able to worry with more high-level
> concepts on a daily basis it is much more efficient, at least for me.
I completely agree.

Marek.