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From John Huss <>
Subject Re: Unique Index Constraints in Cayenne Modeler
Date Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:31:21 GMT
My 2 cents:  Coming from the WebObjects world, their modeler does let you
define indexes (unique or not) in the modeler, and it will generate the sql
for them.  It's nice.

But I'd say it not essential.  In any project of decent size you're likely
to have SOME additional sql to execute to set up your database, be it
creating views or functions or triggers or indexes.  It's definitely not the
modeler's job to handle all that stuff.  So if you have to execute custom
sql already, it's trivial to add the unique constraints at the same time.

What I would really like to see in Modeler is the ability to define *default
values* for attributes.  That is useful because since cayenne is generating
the sql to define the column it's really nice to have it go all the way.
 And the default values can be utilized in the object side in memory when
new objects are created, so it's not just an SQL thing.


On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Daniel Scheibe

> I second this because as i see the DB Modeler is like an abstraction
> layer/tool of the database in terms of a model and i would love to skip any
> direct contact with the database (as i don't really care about the specific
> database backend itself as long as it adheres and fulfils Cayenne
> requirements).
> Maybe i can make my point a little bit more clear with an example:
> Let's say we have a simple Customer Table (composed of a integer PK id, and
> some varchar name column) and a Customer Entity (composed of the string name
> attribute). With only that given i can't identify a single customer as i
> obviously don't want to expose the concept of a primary key to the
> entity/object mapping and for various reasons where a Customer Number simply
> doesn't match the meaning of a PK. So what i would have to do is to
> introduce another column/attribute CustomerNumber to the table and the
> entity.
> Now this CustomerNumber is used to identify a single customer entity but it
> doesn't prohibit the use of duplicate Customer Numbers. That's the point
> where i have to go to the a DB Administration tool and put a unique
> constraint to the CostumerNumber column to ensure uniqueness of the entries
> since i can't do that in the DB Modeler. If i later on recreate the database
> schema the constraints are no longer contained so i have to maintain them in
> another "place".
> So i guess the main question remains whether or not a unique constraint
> should be part of the database model...
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>> I agree that unique indices are important to the model, just like
>> validating that a varchar is no more than (say) 12 characters.
>> Personally I'd like to see all indices in the Cayenne model if only
>> because it means we have one place to store the entire db schema
>> definition, but I do understand why this should be kept separate to the
>> Cayenne runtime.

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