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From Martin Weber <www...@hispeed.ch>
Subject Re: Web site link to example and a proposal for a new example link
Date Sun, 08 Aug 2010 20:16:06 GMT
Hi Andrus,

agree with your point, wrong location and it is easy to find it in 
google. I still think it would be worth adding a link to 
http://yafra.sourceforge.net/ with a short description like "Using 
Cayenne within different java technologies - a jump start".

The whole framework is based on Apache Cayenne. My driving point was 
building different applications with a database as central back end. 
Apache Cayenne was the ORM of choice. Instead of building a concrete 
application to share with others, the idea came up to share all the 
findings and the chosen approaches as a sort of a framework. The 
framework shows how I embedded Apache Cayenne into Apache Wicket or in 
simple console/batch programs or with a fat client written in Eclipse 
RCP using EJB's (not using JPA) to access the Cayenne layer.

I will put some more effort into the trac sourceforge.net page to give a 
better understanding how yafra shall be used.

Hope it helps,
Cheers,
Martin


On 08.08.2010 20:59, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
>> May I suggest to add the Apache Cayenne examples below the success
>> stories on the main page or within the success stories. The examples
>> are quite hard to find (it's referenced on the cwiki index page) and I
>> could find it only through google for apache cayenne examples.
>
> I don't think examples belong on success stories page, as the purpose of
> the later is quite different - to highlight the use of Cayenne on some
> real-life projects. But answering your general point... The problem with
> the examples on cwiki, namely this link -
> https://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/cayenne-examples.html , is that all of
> those are old, unmaintained (as a matter of fact I just removed/changed
> some links that no longer work), and many are likely obsolete.
>
> This is a #1 link shown to me by Google when searching for "cayenne
> examples", so it is not hard to find per se, but the question is whether
> we want to endorse our old set of examples. I'd say them staying a step
> away from the main site is actually good in current situation :-)
>
>> If possible, somebody could add the link to my project as a further
>> example of using cayenne within different technology setups. A link to
>> http://yafra.sourceforge.net/ would be excellent. It is yet another
>> framework, but not in fact to be reused as such, more to get / take
>> what you need to have a better learning curve.
>>
>> I used cayenne with the DTO pattern within EJB3 setup serving an
>> Eclipse RCP EJB3 fat client (using Apache OpenEJB). As well a small
>> example using Apache Wicket with Cayenne. Working on a Google Web
>> Toolkit example and would like to move on to Eclipse Riena using
>> distributed OSGi (they use Hessian as well, seems to be an interesting
>> example). With the yafra framework I did already a ROP example, but
>> not yet published. All sources are under SVN as Eclipse projects. I
>> use Trac to document.
>
> Could you provide links to the parts of Yafra that can be used as
> standalone Cayenne examples (does this request even make sense in the
> context of Yafra? Not sure how it is organized) Or maybe alternatively
> you can provide us with a small writeup, explaining those parts that we
> can put on the wiki with links back to the appropriate pieces of Yafra?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrus
>

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