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From Joe Baldwin <jfbald...@earthlink.net>
Subject Re: Lifecycle Design
Date Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:31:06 GMT
Lawrence,

I am still struggling to understand Andrus' setCacheStrategy()  
approach in his previous email (he claims it is simple and I am all  
for that :) ).  I am attempting some black box testing to figure out  
exactly where my data object is getting cached (and not updated  
properly).  In my case I am initializing a class variable with DB data  
via Cayenne into a singleton when the class is initially loaded.  I am  
not sure whether it is my design or execution of my design that is at  
fault.

> strategies, but a simple Refresh All would get me across the line  
> for the moment. Is there any info on this?

WRT your issue, I found this class in the 3.0 API:

	http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/api/org/apache/cayenne/query/RefreshQuery.html

The docs assert:
	"A query that allows to explicitly clear both object and list caches  
either via refetch (eager refresh) or invalidate (lazy refresh)."
This may be the ticket for you.

Unfortunately, my singleton appears to be attached to the Tomcat app  
and not the session so I can't find an elegant way for it to refresh.

Please let me know if you get this working.
Joe


On Apr 10, 2009, at 5:28 PM, Lawrence Gerstley wrote:

> So, in my knowledge-gaining journey with this topic, I ran across  
> this page: http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/refreshquery.html, which  
> looks like a list of items yet to be done or at least yet to be  
> documented (and boy, when I have things really understood, I want to  
> volunteer some documentation time to the project). There is a topic  
> headline of "Refresh All", and an indication in the links posted as  
> to the "RefreshQuery", but the pertinent part of the links are  
> broken, and I can't track down the resolution of the items. However,  
> this is exactly what I need to do for a first step. My application's  
> environment will be (mandated by the customer), a thick client  
> running on a Citrix instance, and some of the challenges posed by  
> JGroups will take me awhile to understand. In the meantime, I want  
> to provide a simple "Refresh All" button that will provide for a  
> dumb refresh without leaving the application. I'm struggling with  
> different caching strategies, but a simple Refresh All would get me  
> across the line for the moment. Is there any info on this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> On Apr 10, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>> As mentioned in the quoted docs, there are ways to receive  
>> immediate notifications on the individual objects updates (if they  
>> are updated via Cayenne). This approach, while the most powerful on  
>> the surface, is least practical, especially across the VM. It  
>> suffers from a number of shortcomings (as also have been mentioned  
>> here):
>>
>> * It has a potential to generate too much network traffic
>> * As all update events are broadcast, it has a potential to DDOS  
>> the apps who may not care about 90% of the updates (as all incoming  
>> events incur processing overhead), so some manual event channel  
>> filtering may be needed.
>> * It does not correctly refresh cached query lists. E.g. if you  
>> have a cached fetch for "documents that are in draft mode", and  
>> then received an event saying that one of the drafts has changed to  
>> "not a draft", the object will be refreshed, the list will become  
>> stale, as its composition no longer matches the search criteria.
>> * Finally, the data can change in DB by non Cayenne clients...
>>
>> So I am very much in favor of the Query Cache approach that is not  
>> documented that well, but is really simple to use:
>>
>> query.setCacheStrategy(QueryCacheStrategy.LOCAL_CACHE); // or  
>> SHARED_CACHE...
>> query.setCacheGroups("g1", "g2", ...);
>>
>> Once you start doing that for your queries, you can perform further  
>> cache configuration in a semi-declarative manner. E.g. I am  
>> successfully using OSQueryCacheFactory:
>>
>> dataDomain.setQueryCacheFactory(new OSQueryCacheFactory());
>>
>> This ties Cayenne query cache to OSCache which allows time based  
>> expiration of entries, cron like expressions, and forced  
>> invalidation, including remote invalidation via JGroups. All of  
>> that incurs nearly zero overhead, as the entries are not actively  
>> purged from cache, but rather marked as invalid by "group" (see  
>> 'setCacheGroups' above). Cross-VM events are also sent as the names  
>> of the groups to invalidate, not full object snapshots. This is  
>> very powerful and easy to use stuff.
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:
>>> The proposed way is to use JGroups or JMS for synchronization:
>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/configuring-caching-behavior.html
>>>
>>> 2009/4/10 Lawrence Gerstley <lawgers@rcn.com>
>>>
>>>> So, I have the same question here--multiple thick clients  
>>>> (desktop RCP
>>>> applications), each with a DataContext tied to the same backend,  
>>>> and
>>>> potential database access (direct or otherwise) from other  
>>>> toolsets out of
>>>> my control. Is there a recommended strategy for refreshing each  
>>>> applications
>>>> singleton DataContext to stay in synch, or manually a supplying  
>>>> refresh
>>>> command to the DataContext to periodically update (and, if so, with
>>>> what/how)?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Lawrence
>>>> ===================================
>>>> Lawrence Gerstley, Ph.D.
>>>> PSMI Consulting
>>>> lawgers@gmail.com
>>>> Cel: (415) 694-0844
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Your singleton cache is going to need to be update periodically if
>>>>> there are changes to the under lying database from other sources.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards Malcolm Edgar
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Joe Baldwin <jfbaldwin@earthlink.net

>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I *think* this is a life-cycle question, but there may be more  
>>>>>> to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Proposed Design:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Standard Web page JSP using Tomcat server.
>>>>>> 2. One of the JSP's accesses a singleton.
>>>>>> 3. The singleton accesses and stores a database field via Cayenne
>>>>>> (presumably when the class is initially loaded) and should  
>>>>>> never need to
>>>>>> access the field again.
>>>>>> 4. I would prefer it if the database field change would be  
>>>>>> propagated to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> singleton upon the next new client-Session.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Problem
>>>>>> 1. Here is the odd bit: the database field can be modified via  
>>>>>> direct
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> to the database (SQL, etc).
>>>>>> 2. Cayenne appears not to see this change even when a new  
>>>>>> client-Session
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> initialized.
>>>>>> 3. I can *force* the singleton to recognize the change by  
>>>>>> restarting
>>>>>> Tomcat
>>>>>> (but that is totally lame :) )
>>>>>> 4. Unless I have made a mistake (which is possible), the  
>>>>>> singleton should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> only associated with JSP session scope.  But if I am wrong,  
>>>>>> this could be
>>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously, I have a misunderstanding about either Cayenne or  
>>>>>> Tomcat
>>>>>> caching
>>>>>> or perhaps its a combo of the two.  It appears from my tests  
>>>>>> that the
>>>>>> singleton class may be constructed the first time after Tomcat is
>>>>>> restarted
>>>>>> and then remains persistent even across different sessions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any suggestions as to a simple design in which my  
>>>>>> singleton
>>>>>> forces
>>>>>> re-initialized (i.e. refresh the Cayenne object from the DBMS  
>>>>>> data) upon
>>>>>> each new session?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>


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