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From Andrus Adamchik <>
Subject Re: Insert at a particular position in the detail list
Date Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:34:48 GMT
I think it does. If it suddenly changes behind the scenes, it can be  
confusing. So I am not 100% opposed to it, but I feel like having it  
in a default cgen template is probably put some burden on us to make  
it work.


On Sep 26, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Isn't it good from the user's point of view for the new DO she  
> created to be where she put it? To me this is a good thing  
> regardless of what happens when the user or another user does a re- 
> query. Having the extra int argument isn't necessarily making all  
> kinds of relational database ordering promises.
> Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>> On Sep 26, 2008, at 2:41 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> Wouldn't it be a good idea for the generated methods to have the  
>>> extra int argument?
>> It is a bit more involved than that. The problem with including  
>> this in Cayenne is that it won't work in a more general case. E.g.  
>> if you add an object at a particular index, and the master object  
>> is later invalidated and refetched, the order will be lost. Or if  
>> it is refetched by another user. So Scott's answer was essentially  
>> correct.
>> We tried to solve it from another angle, by defining a certain  
>> column as the "ordering" column to instruct Cayenne to order  
>> fetched relationship lists. It is still on the table, but it is  
>> also hairy...
>> For now I can't think of a clean generic solution that would map to  
>> a DB. The ordering column is the closest I can think of.
>> Thanks,
>> Andrus
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