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From Kevin Menard <>
Subject Re: Cayenne web site design
Date Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:25:09 GMT
Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
> I don't like the 'two links to the same thing' mainly because it is 
> unexpected and unusual. I've never seen a web site do it, and there 
> will inevitably be complaints like 'one of your links is broken - it 
> should point somewhere else'. 

There's lots of interesting arguments surrounding this.  Mainly, most 
current Web site designs focus far more on aesthetics than usability.  I 
pine for the days when all links were blue and underlined.  Nowadays I 
have to move my mouse around until the cursor changes in order to find 
links.  The point being, I wouldn't use current Web design trends as the 
basis for usability.

> I also think that it admits to a failure in categorisation in the 
> first place. The difference between a table of contents and an index 
> (in a book), is that one shows you structure (like web navigation 
> does) and the other is a quick way to find content.

The data necessarily does not fall into a single category.  Very few 
things in life do.  It's not a shortcoming as far as I'm concerned.  It 
appeals to how different people think.  You may think of an email list 
as support, I may think of it as collaboration.  If I never think of it 
as support, and that's where the link is, I'm never going to find it.  
Or if I do find it, I'm never going to believe it was in a logical 
place.  This is why I was advocating discrete sections that map to 
certain use patterns and including all necessary links in those 
patterns.  The only potential for confusion would be if a user viewed 
the whole nav bar as a giant blob, but that shouldn't be the case since 
you've chunked it off into sections anyway.

> Web sites typically don't have an index since they have 
> htdig/Google/whatever instead, but navigation helps show the structure 
> of the site. I don't think this is particularly compatible with having 
> two links to the same thing.

"Do not" and "should not" are not necessarily the same thing ;-)  All of 
my ebooks have search capabilities, but also have indices.  Some people 
prefer search, others prefer the index.  Having both doesn't seem to 
induce confusion and lets each group of people find what they need 
quickly.  Obviously different contexts, but once again, I wouldn't look 
to current Web trends as the pinnacle of usability.

> But anyhow, thanks for all your help. I'll try and incorporate as much 
> as I can into the next revision. The big thing is to figure out the 
> Confluence templating next.

No problem.  Thanks  for putting all the time into this.

FYI, I brought this back on list because it moved from POLA back to the 
Web site.


Kevin Menard
Servprise International, Inc.
"Remote reboot without pulling the plug" --

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