Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cayenne-user-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 86178 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 15:27:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 15:27:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 55387 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2006 15:27:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cayenne-user-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55269 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2006 15:27:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cayenne-user-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cayenne-user@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cayenne-user@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55260 invoked by uid 99); 9 Sep 2006 15:27:38 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:27:38 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [64.124.179.102] (HELO polatsk.objectstyle.org) (64.124.179.102) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:27:37 -0700 Received: (qmail 20121 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2006 15:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?ZJ?cr??IPv6:::1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Sep 2006 15:27:16 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <2A11D5D7-4F22-4B54-8C88-32A667F3FDE9@objectstyle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Andrus Adamchik Subject: Re: Site structure redesign Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:27:19 +0400 To: cayenne-user@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Sep 9, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Borut Bol=C4=8Dina wrote: > I can live with that, it's just that it discards my idea of two site > focuses. We can experiment, I think we are all very open minded ;-) This is where I misunderstood your intent initially. I think I follow =20= you now. See my other message on site focus - we need to accommodate =20 all those users. How we split it across the site(s) is the question =20 to discuss, but there is no question that all those aspects need to =20 be addressed in some way. > Don't you think we can profile the users based on user mailing list =20= > postings > and decide which items are more important? I used to run webalizer stats from the old objectstyle site. IIRC =20 JavaDocs generated lots of hits; same for the user guide. This points =20= to the people who are actually working with Cayenne and are looking =20 for the reference material. Not sure how useful FAQ is in its present =20= state. > No one wants to write documentation in XML, at least sane people =20 > don't. If > this auto export can make the static site visually professional =20 > then maybe > the static site can only have titles and excerpts with link to wiki =20= > entries. Yep. Content transformation (from Wiki to static) is done using this =20 Velocity template that I mentioned before: http://people.apache.org/~aadamchik/confluence-template.txt Right now it generates Confluence standard look, we can change it to =20 anything we want. If the template above turns out to be not flexible =20 enough, all Confluence content is accessible via XML-RPC and SOAP =20 (both are very easy to use), so we can get the raw content and format =20= it to our liking. That's how we produce downloadable user guide. > Yes, it looks quite ok. Then again have a look (click through some > sections) how differently it can be done > http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/toplink/quicktour/=20 > index.htm. Not very impressed by this powerpointish site, but I agree that we =20 need some sort of feature walk-through section. Don't see any =20 conflict with having that type of info and the current site. Andrus